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Author	EVE_ddred
Comment	> The problem with communism is that on surface it does not look too bad and may seem convincing to some people I don't think so, anyone who advocates for leftist or against classical liberal policies isn't automatically advocating for communism. The SSP and communist party has so little support in Scotland that they can't even get a seat in a proportional system, so I think it's a complete non-sequitor that this is some widespread misconception that people have. Anarchism, which the poster would reportedly be advocating for, has more in line with classical liberal ideology than it does with Communism in my book but I'm not entirely convinced that they're true anarachists advocating for the erasure of governments and institutions. I remember anarchists over the decades protesting against rampant corruption in the banking industry in 2008, I remember them protesting when America wanted to export copyright laws and IP protection laws across the entire world with things like ACTA. America actually charged a Chinese guy once with 'economic terrorism' because he was selling fake goods at a stall. When the barras used to get raided by the police for fake goods, I didn't think one day people would be later advocating for the arrest and imprisonment of the people who did it because some America company isn't happy about having their music downloaded off the internet. So, what's the message of this poster? Capitalism is destroying the planet and your mind? Perhaps the latter claim is tenuous but the first claim is absolutely true. America has leased more oil and gas for drilling than climate scientists say is safe to release into the atmosphere. Economics has no politics, you ask what will happen if you do x and you get an answer. The country might get richer but if the planet dies, who cares? All the rhetoric about communism, nazism and such will never add anything of value because Locke and Milton who wrote their books in the 18th century probably never imagined that the world would be facing the problems it does today. People like Adam Smith or such wouldn't advocate for the current version of capitalism, he was actually quite critical of some aspects of it in terms of joint-stock companies and his view on the relationship betweeen labour, management and owners. You can critique aspects of capitalism without advocating for communism. You can like systems like the NHS without thinking it's going to lead to an authoritarian state.
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Created	Mon 6th Jan 2020 7:14pm
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> The problem with communism is that on surface it does not look too bad and may seem convincing to some people

I don't think so, anyone who advocates for leftist or against classical liberal policies isn't automatically advocating for communism. The SSP and communist party has so little support in Scotland that they can't even get a seat in a proportional system, so I think it's a complete non-sequitor that this is some widespread misconception that people have.

Anarchism, which the poster would reportedly be advocating for, has more in line with classical liberal ideology than it does with Communism in my book but I'm not entirely convinced that they're true anarachists advocating for the erasure of governments and institutions. I remember anarchists over the decades protesting against rampant corruption in the banking industry in 2008, I remember them protesting when America wanted to export copyright laws and IP protection laws across the entire world with things like ACTA. America actually charged a Chinese guy once with 'economic terrorism' because he was selling fake goods at a stall. When the barras used to get raided by the police for fake goods, I didn't think one day people would be later advocating for the arrest and imprisonment of the people who did it because some America company isn't happy about having their music downloaded off the internet.

So, what's the message of this poster? Capitalism is destroying the planet and your mind? Perhaps the latter claim is tenuous but the first claim is absolutely true. America has leased more oil and gas for drilling than climate scientists say is safe to release into the atmosphere.

Economics has no politics, you ask what will happen if you do x and you get an answer. The country might get richer but if the planet dies, who cares? All the rhetoric about communism, nazism and such will never add anything of value because Locke and Milton who wrote their books in the 18th century probably never imagined that the world would be facing the problems it does today.

People like Adam Smith or such wouldn't advocate for the current version of capitalism, he was actually quite critical of some aspects of it in terms of joint-stock companies and his view on the relationship betweeen labour, management and owners.

You can critique aspects of capitalism without advocating for communism. You can like systems like the NHS without thinking it's going to lead to an authoritarian state.