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Author	blunt_smasher_69000
Comment	This is what I've tried to get at with other people. In this very thread there are Rangers fans who are willing to take a critical eye to their club. There is very clearly a sectarian element who have been able to co-opt the club. Times are changing though, since sectarianism is far less supported now than in decades past. But I'm frustrated because the rest of Scotland is either unaware of this ongoing conversation within the club or unwilling to consider that we might not secretly love the Orange Order and are all closet right wing racists. Contrast this with our neighbours. Should we tar them all because a few [hang effigies with little consequence](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-fan-cleared-hanging-rangers-20057928) or [fly IRA banners](https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic-face-ira-banner-fine-1444684)? Of course not. But have you ever seen one of them disavow their club over the fifty years of covering up a paedophile ring, harming dozens of children and ruining lives? Should their fanbase stand up for that principal and risk the wrath of knuckle draggers? That's a genuine question. I'm not trying to make a direct point about Celtic, their fans or history. That's for them to worry about (though as a survivor of child abuse I do have a lot to say on the matter). The point I want to focus on is that there is an ongoing attempt by people like us to rescue Rangers, whilst the rest of the country would prefer to ignore this in favour of low effort insults.
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Created	Tue 16th Jun 2020 3:26pm
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This is what I've tried to get at with other people. In this very thread there are Rangers fans who are willing to take a critical eye to their club. There is very clearly a sectarian element who have been able to co-opt the club. Times are changing though, since sectarianism is far less supported now than in decades past.

But I'm frustrated because the rest of Scotland is either unaware of this ongoing conversation within the club or unwilling to consider that we might not secretly love the Orange Order and are all closet right wing racists.

Contrast this with our neighbours. Should we tar them all because a few [hang effigies with little consequence](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-fan-cleared-hanging-rangers-20057928) or [fly IRA banners](https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic-face-ira-banner-fine-1444684)? Of course not. But have you ever seen one of them disavow their club over the fifty years of covering up a paedophile ring, harming dozens of children and ruining lives? Should their fanbase stand up for that principal and risk the wrath of knuckle draggers? That's a genuine question.

I'm not trying to make a direct point about Celtic, their fans or history. That's for them to worry about (though as a survivor of child abuse I do have a lot to say on the matter).

The point I want to focus on is that there is an ongoing attempt by people like us to rescue Rangers, whilst the rest of the country would prefer to ignore this in favour of low effort insults.