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Author	eenbiertje
Comment	Fair dos, I totally appreciate this. There are rules for drivers and cyclists and it annoys me when I see cyclists racing along a pavement or not giving space to pedestrians. I will say this though: * Roads here are so inhospitable, intimidating and even dangerous for cyclists (except very hardened road cyclists), that I honestly cannot blame anyone for cycling on pavements. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but there are some stretches of Glasgow roads where I just won't go on the road. If ever I use a pavement, I know I'm on "pedestrians turf" so to speak, so am extremely cautious and avoid coming close to pedestrians. I'd expect other people on bikes to be the same, so yes it bugs me too when I see cyclists going quickly and acting without consideration for others. The way to counter this in the long term is either to make roads more hospitable (through traffic calming strategies), or by building segregated cycle lanes. Until this happens, I'm afraid pavement cycling will continue to happen. * Some pavements in Glasgow are officially "shared-use paths", with signage depicting pedestrians and bikes together. It's becoming more apparent to me that these aren't widely known about by non-cyclists. Signage is very very patchy and unclear, and from quite a few recent conversations, it seems a large bulk of cyclist-pedestrian conflict (or after the fact annoyance from pedestrians) in Glasgow comes from pedestrians having walked along one of these paths without knowing to expect bikes. In all honesty, these paths are a terrible, lazy, money saving idea and will always lead to conflict. They're a way for the council to say they have X miles of a cycle network, when there is really not such thing. They need to be replaced with proper segregation for walkers and cyclists.
Reddit Link	https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/hqbvni/bar_vini_owner_threatens_cyclist_with_ill_smash/fxx08mr/
Created	Mon 13th Jul 2020 11:21am
Status	normal ()

Fair dos, I totally appreciate this. There are rules for drivers and cyclists and it annoys me when I see cyclists racing along a pavement or not giving space to pedestrians.

I will say this though:

* Roads here are so inhospitable, intimidating and even dangerous for cyclists (except very hardened road cyclists), that I honestly cannot blame anyone for cycling on pavements. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but there are some stretches of Glasgow roads where I just won't go on the road. If ever I use a pavement, I know I'm on "pedestrians turf" so to speak, so am extremely cautious and avoid coming close to pedestrians. I'd expect other people on bikes to be the same, so yes it bugs me too when I see cyclists going quickly and acting without consideration for others. The way to counter this in the long term is either to make roads more hospitable (through traffic calming strategies), or by building segregated cycle lanes. Until this happens, I'm afraid pavement cycling will continue to happen.

* Some pavements in Glasgow are officially "shared-use paths", with signage depicting pedestrians and bikes together. It's becoming more apparent to me that these aren't widely known about by non-cyclists. Signage is very very patchy and unclear, and from quite a few recent conversations, it seems a large bulk of cyclist-pedestrian conflict (or after the fact annoyance from pedestrians) in Glasgow comes from pedestrians having walked along one of these paths without knowing to expect bikes. In all honesty, these paths are a terrible, lazy, money saving idea and will always lead to conflict. They're a way for the council to say they have X miles of a cycle network, when there is really not such thing. They need to be replaced with proper segregation for walkers and cyclists.