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Author	CAElite
Comment	In my experience a lot of it is commuter traffic going from the commuter towns in the west, to the distribution & industrial centres in the east. Which is partially induced by near enough every major business in Scotland having a warehouse at Eurocentral. These are labour intensive places & also houses the UKs largest office development (as of a few years ago iirc, might not be current) at Maxim park nearby. I'll need to find the documentary I watched from a few years ago on the M8 specifically, the gist of it being that there where dozens of plans throughout the 70s-80s which foresaw the increases in demand coming on the M8, however many of them fell through due to budgeting post 1980. It's really bothering me that I can't remember the name of it, 'Glasgow: Bridges to nowhere' rings a bell. As a civil engineer myself (not traffic planning I will admit, but utilities) I really can't help but be critical of induced demand, as it is a heavily disputed theory in industry, and doesn't typically apply to trunk roads. It is accepted that better flowing traffic increases road traffic demand, however this has also been linked to increased business prosperity as people become more confident in their ability to travel for services, the current trend of neglecting traffic flows has produced the opposite result, Paisley being the perfect example of this as massive decline was shown after Renfrew attempted similar measures to GCC in the 90s, they met their goal of reduced traffic, but this also had a huge effect on local business footfall, the last decade have seen the precursors of this in Glasgow city centre. As a general rule, people enjoy convenience.
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Created	Wed 28th Oct 2020 1:44pm
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In my experience a lot of it is commuter traffic going from the commuter towns in the west, to the distribution & industrial centres in the east. Which is partially induced by near enough every major business in Scotland having a warehouse at Eurocentral. These are labour intensive places & also houses the UKs largest office development (as of a few years ago iirc, might not be current) at Maxim park nearby.

I'll need to find the documentary I watched from a few years ago on the M8 specifically, the gist of it being that there where dozens of plans throughout the 70s-80s which foresaw the increases in demand coming on the M8, however many of them fell through due to budgeting post 1980.

It's really bothering me that I can't remember the name of it, 'Glasgow: Bridges to nowhere' rings a bell.

As a civil engineer myself (not traffic planning I will admit, but utilities) I really can't help but be critical of induced demand, as it is a heavily disputed theory in industry, and doesn't typically apply to trunk roads. It is accepted that better flowing traffic increases road traffic demand, however this has also been linked to increased business prosperity as people become more confident in their ability to travel for services, the current trend of neglecting traffic flows has produced the opposite result, Paisley being the perfect example of this as massive decline was shown after Renfrew attempted similar measures to GCC in the 90s, they met their goal of reduced traffic, but this also had a huge effect on local business footfall, the last decade have seen the precursors of this in Glasgow city centre. As a general rule, people enjoy convenience.