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Author	360Saturn
Comment	Genuinely, what is your actual issue, without rabbit holing and vagueposting? To summarize how it comes across - please correct me if this isn't the case: * You are a straight person who used to like spending time in gay spaces when you didn't feel you had to adapt your behaviour in any way * You now, as a straight person, don't feel welcome because you feel you have to change your behaviour in some way * The way that you have to change is to be respectful of others in that space and you feel that doing so is something you don't want to do because you don't feel their claims of how they want to be treated deserve to be heard * Rather than thinking that this comes from these people's true desire to be respected, you think this is some kind of Russian con that is making the community toxic * The only way that the community has become toxic is that it has made straight people who refuse to respect the people's space and how they want to be addressed feel less welcome. What solution do you possibly want here, besides forcing people to not have any space to go to at all so that you, a straight person, can personally feel more comfortable in an LGBTQ+ space and not feel the need to change your behaviour or how you are asked to treat others? Regarding pronouns and everything like that, no-one is forcing anyone to date anyone or kiss them or whatever. Your lesbian friend got hit on by someone she wasn't into. That could happen with a lesbian, a bi girl, a straight man or anyone. The pronouns thing is a smokescreen and you are the only one going for it.
Reddit Link	https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/pgvvrb/some_bouncers_are_ridiculous/hbgaznq/
Created	Fri 3rd Sep 2021 3:47pm
Status	normal ()

Genuinely, what is your actual issue, without rabbit holing and vagueposting?

To summarize how it comes across - please correct me if this isn't the case:

* You are a straight person who used to like spending time in gay spaces when you didn't feel you had to adapt your behaviour in any way

* You now, as a straight person, don't feel welcome because you feel you have to change your behaviour in some way

* The way that you have to change is to be respectful of others in that space and you feel that doing so is something you don't want to do because you don't feel their claims of how they want to be treated deserve to be heard

* Rather than thinking that this comes from these people's true desire to be respected, you think this is some kind of Russian con that is making the community toxic

* The only way that the community has become toxic is that it has made straight people who refuse to respect the people's space and how they want to be addressed feel less welcome.

What solution do you possibly want here, besides forcing people to not have any space to go to at all so that you, a straight person, can personally feel more comfortable in an LGBTQ+ space and not feel the need to change your behaviour or how you are asked to treat others?

Regarding pronouns and everything like that, no-one is forcing anyone to date anyone or kiss them or whatever. Your lesbian friend got hit on by someone she wasn't into. That could happen with a lesbian, a bi girl, a straight man or anyone. The pronouns thing is a smokescreen and you are the only one going for it.