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Author	Thunder_Munkey
Comment	Theres also plenty of cycle lanes that are separate from roads (by that I mean an actual kerb, with bollards at regular intervals also) and have their own traffic light systems and they still don't get used. So what is the point in spending yet again more money on an infrastructure that will be vastly under used. Surely it would make more sense to educate both drivers and cyclists from a much earlier start point instead of continually increasing spending on something in the hope that suddenly people are going to wake up and go 'oh bike lanes, ill grab my helmet' Regarding point 2 you make. Congestion is reduced by freer flowing traffic, not increasing the travel time in and out of the city centre. Cars should absolutely be turned off when idle, but realistically, how many do ? no one is policing that, and it would be another colossal waste of police time to do so, unless it was an instant fine with no messing about for the police. My example of this is that if I was driving up Queen St to head home to the east end, I'd head up towards the station, take a right, and head right along towards duke street. I can't do that now, so now I have to turn left and take about an extra 3/4 of a mile drive through town then further driving to get back to the east end. In what way is that both fuel efficient and environmentally friendly ? Thinking about all the extra lights and stops due to busses etc.
Reddit Link	https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/q21nex/citywide_active_travel_network_plan_unveiled/hfkurvn/
Created	Wed 6th Oct 2021 8:27am
Status	normal ()

Theres also plenty of cycle lanes that are separate from roads (by that I mean an actual kerb, with bollards at regular intervals also) and have their own traffic light systems and they still don't get used.



So what is the point in spending yet again more money on an infrastructure that will be vastly under used. Surely it would make more sense to educate both drivers and cyclists from a much earlier start point instead of continually increasing spending on something in the hope that suddenly people are going to wake up and go 'oh bike lanes, ill grab my helmet'



Regarding point 2 you make. Congestion is reduced by freer flowing traffic, not increasing the travel time in and out of the city centre. Cars should absolutely be turned off when idle, but realistically, how many do ? no one is policing that, and it would be another colossal waste of police time to do so, unless it was an instant fine with no messing about for the police. My example of this is that if I was driving up Queen St to head home to the east end, I'd head up towards the station, take a right, and head right along towards duke street. I can't do that now, so now I have to turn left and take about an extra 3/4 of a mile drive through town then further driving to get back to the east end. In what way is that both fuel efficient and environmentally friendly ? Thinking about all the extra lights and stops due to busses etc.