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Author	smcsleazy
Comment	have you ever used the crossings on sauchiehall street going across the M8 during rush hour? it's 3 sets of lights. each set of lights takes about 1 min to change for pedestrians. even if you get lucky and just make the first set, you're likely to not make 2 or 3 so have to wait. it's very common for people in cars to basically just stop on the crossing while the light for pedestrians is green, half the time, business boy in his BMW doesn't care if the light is green for pedestrians, if the traffic is moving, he'll try moving too. now picture doing this is the pooring rain. the noise thing, it's not an opinion, there have been studies on it. here's a good video on it and sources are shown in the description. also, because you clearly have an interest in urban planning, maybe this channel is worth a watch. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8). btw, i love that your solution is "don't live on a main road" i'm guessing you're into the idea of personal responsibility. i'm also guessing you don't live on a main road. we can say all we want "improve traffic flow" easiest way to improve flow is to remove more vehicles from the road. let me ask you something since as mentioned before, you clearly seem to be an expert on urban planning. how many times have you been stuck in a traffic jam, what do you think causes the traffic jam? improve "flow" and you're still going to have traffic. it's a situation of induced demand, aka more people will see the improvements made to that road and think "oh, i hated that bit, i'll use it" and you end up with the same problem. get people who don't need to be in their cars OUT of their cars and get them on public transport, that means there's more space for the people who need to use the car and you will have better flow.
Reddit Link	https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/qnirk2/the_m8_could_be_so_much_more/hjhqigr/
Created	Sat 6th Nov 2021 12:54am
Status	normal ()

have you ever used the crossings on sauchiehall street going across the M8 during rush hour? it's 3 sets of lights. each set of lights takes about 1 min to change for pedestrians. even if you get lucky and just make the first set, you're likely to not make 2 or 3 so have to wait. it's very common for people in cars to basically just stop on the crossing while the light for pedestrians is green, half the time, business boy in his BMW doesn't care if the light is green for pedestrians, if the traffic is moving, he'll try moving too. now picture doing this is the pooring rain.

the noise thing, it's not an opinion, there have been studies on it. here's a good video on it and sources are shown in the description. also, because you clearly have an interest in urban planning, maybe this channel is worth a watch. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8). btw, i love that your solution is "don't live on a main road" i'm guessing you're into the idea of personal responsibility. i'm also guessing you don't live on a main road.

we can say all we want "improve traffic flow" easiest way to improve flow is to remove more vehicles from the road. let me ask you something since as mentioned before, you clearly seem to be an expert on urban planning. how many times have you been stuck in a traffic jam, what do you think causes the traffic jam? improve "flow" and you're still going to have traffic. it's a situation of induced demand, aka more people will see the improvements made to that road and think "oh, i hated that bit, i'll use it" and you end up with the same problem. get people who don't need to be in their cars OUT of their cars and get them on public transport, that means there's more space for the people who need to use the car and you will have better flow.