Hugely I was in aviation (just stores I'm not a spanner twirler) from 2006 until until 2008 and yeah 2008 was the end of that for me. Folk who worked all their days in that factory were out the job the older ones all jumped first in fairness but yeah their sacrifice wasn't enough spanner twirlers managers lowly stores guys all out a job. Engines don't need sorted if they aint doing the hours.