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>My contention is with your use of the word only. The memo is a rule of thumb regarding recording police in public, it does not touch on the myriad of nuanced instances that could take place.

I don't really understand the contention. Because what you've said fundamentally agrees with me. There are plenty of instances where it could take place, but I don't think you're trying to suggest any of them lack a suspicion of criminality? Are you suggesting police can just take someone's property if they feel like it? Because I don't think you are.

> As for what you're saying regarding the officer should make an effort to move away from the scene / the person filming... all I'll say is your mileage may vary.

Which means what, exactly?

> The person filming already approached the scene and made the decision to start recording

The scene is taking place in a public place, where any member of the public has a right to be. Are you suggesting the public can't choose to be near the police when they're carrying out their duties? Because I don't think you are.

> whether or not it becomes obstructive isn't based on the behaviour of the individual but the effect the individual is having.

Sure, but what effect is OP having in the video prior to the officer approaching? They're just standing filming. The police only react to OP as they get closer to him and notice that he's filming. It's not like it's uncommon for people to watch the police as they're arresting someone - they are well used to having an audience. So, I think it's resonable to assume OP didn't do anything other than approach and stand in the spot they're in immediately before filming began, otherwise I'd expect the video to open with an interaction that was clearly in the middle of occuring (which is what the previous video that was posted was, but this video now shows us what was going on immediately before the police approached OP). OP isn't saying anything, OP isn't standing in their way, or even particularly close to them, it is not inherently disruptive to the police for someone to be nearby, observing, when they're carrying out their duties. It's not inherently disruptive for someone to film the police from a distance either. If we start saying "being near the police is disruptive", that feels like questionable ground, does it not?

> Maybe the officer was abusing his power or maybe the officer had a good reason for it

Which I don't hear the officer articulate in either video. Sure, we don't have the full thing, but what I've heard, what I've seen, and what that memo says is that the police officer is acting outwith their powers. They can ask, but they can't legally compel OP to stop filming unless OP commits another crime in the course of filming.

> it seemed like the woman wanted to point out something to him (maybe another suspect involved in the crime).

I mean, I could say it seems like she wanted to tell the officer he looked great in his uniform. We don't know what she was going to say. Speculating that it was something very important to the situation is just speculation and utterly pointless. It doesn't matter what she was going to say in the slightest. She was informed by the officer that OP was filming, she didn't speak. We don't know if she didn't speak because OP was filming, or if it was because the officer continued to speak to OP, but OP didn't actively prevent her from speaking or moving away to speak to the police. A single instance of someone not wanting to speak in that exact moment because they were being filmed doesn't constitute a crime on the part of the person recording, does it? Not by any law I can find. If she moves away and OP follows, yeah, sure, that could be construed as disruptive. But not unless there's active action on OP's part. Which filming is not.

> Either way, there was a gap between both videos and it's not clear exactly what's going on or has happened in any of it.

Sure, there's a gap, but it doesn't seem like a massive gap and I wholly believe we're seeing the start of the interaction in this video. The start of the interaction is pretty relevant.
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