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Author	LexyNoise
Comment	Loading is allowed on double yellow lines, but the government has a very strict view of what counts as loading. Councils have to follow this policy. Moving goods between a vehicle and a property is loading. But only if it's some combination of big / heavy / valuable / fragile / unwieldy / inconvenient to carry a longer distance. Pick any two or three of those six and you've got loading. Moving a bed into a property is loading. Carrying multiple boxes of stuff is loading. Walking into your local Chinese to pick up a single plastic bag containing your order is not loading. (Deliveroo and JustEat drivers are common targets for penalty charge notices because, as far as the law is concerned, picking up a single carrier bag from a takeaway is not loading). Loading only includes the time it takes to move the goods in our out of the property. Once the bed is in your house, anything else isn't loading. For example, if he was moving the bed into the bedroom and then assembling it, that wouldn't count as loading. Usually, the enforcement officers will watch a vehicle for 3-5 minutes to see if there's any comings and goings. If someone comes to the vehicle and lifts boxes out, they'll know you're loading and continue on their way. If they see the vehicle sitting there unattended for 5 minutes, they'll stick a penalty charge notice on it. If you get a penalty charge notice and you were loading, you can challenge it. But the onus is on you to prove you were loading, and they'll want a good explanation of why the vehicle was left unattended for so long. The longer they've observed the vehicle for, the harder it will be to justify. Your driver probably has a really shitty arrangement with the company who own the van. Penalty charge notices go to the owner of the vehicle, not the driver. Some companies will let the driver challenge the notice. Some will just pay it and dock the driver's wages. If the delivery company are arseholes, he's probably worried about them docking £60 off his wages. Source: I got an unfair parking ticket once, challenged it and won. In the process, I joined a very nerdy message board where people talk about parking tickets and what exactly the law says. I still read that message board five years later because I have no life.
Reddit Link	https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/10y47xj/parking_on_double_yellow_line_for_delivery_drivers/j7z1595/
Created	Fri 10th Feb 2023 12:40pm
Status	normal ()

Loading is allowed on double yellow lines, but the government has a very strict view of what counts as loading. Councils have to follow this policy.

Moving goods between a vehicle and a property is loading. But only if it's some combination of big / heavy / valuable / fragile / unwieldy / inconvenient to carry a longer distance. Pick any two or three of those six and you've got loading. Moving a bed into a property is loading. Carrying multiple boxes of stuff is loading. Walking into your local Chinese to pick up a single plastic bag containing your order is not loading. (Deliveroo and JustEat drivers are common targets for penalty charge notices because, as far as the law is concerned, picking up a single carrier bag from a takeaway is not loading).

Loading only includes the time it takes to move the goods in our out of the property. Once the bed is in your house, anything else isn't loading. For example, if he was moving the bed into the bedroom and then assembling it, that wouldn't count as loading.

Usually, the enforcement officers will watch a vehicle for 3-5 minutes to see if there's any comings and goings. If someone comes to the vehicle and lifts boxes out, they'll know you're loading and continue on their way. If they see the vehicle sitting there unattended for 5 minutes, they'll stick a penalty charge notice on it.

If you get a penalty charge notice and you *were* loading, you can challenge it. But the onus is on you to prove you were loading, and they'll want a good explanation of why the vehicle was left unattended for so long. The longer they've observed the vehicle for, the harder it will be to justify.

Your driver probably has a really shitty arrangement with the company who own the van. Penalty charge notices go to the owner of the vehicle, not the driver. Some companies will let the driver challenge the notice. Some will just pay it and dock the driver's wages. If the delivery company are arseholes, he's probably worried about them docking £60 off his wages.

Source: I got an unfair parking ticket once, challenged it and won. In the process, I joined a very nerdy message board where people talk about parking tickets and what exactly the law says. I still read that message board five years later because I have no life.