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Author	Scunnered20
Comment	I do worry that there will be a sustained push against this specific line of the metro for this very reason (the bit it is slated to run partly through the northern end of KG park). It does present issues, and although it would be a line running a very short distance along what was previously an active rail line anyway (90 years ago), you're right. It is a park now. It will be tricky to convince the public of its merit given the potential impact. That said, it is such a vital link for a route which would extend out to Maryhill and potentially out as far as Drumchapel, serving communities with very limited transit options. Above this, the line would connect these areas to the Subway loop and regional lines that cross the path of the Botanics (via Exhibition Centre and Central Station). The line is also proposed to run south via Central Lower Level and along the Union Line bridge, on to to today's Cathcart Circle lines to the southside creating a direct rail connection between Southside and West End for the first time ever. On balance, I really do think it is worth doing. If it ends up being lighter tram-like vehicles, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, disturbance-wise. And steps can be take to create grade separation at the park, should services be so frequent (pedestrian and cycle underpasses). It's far from ideal, but this really is such a lynchpin for the line that I don't see an alternative. And not just the line in the context of the west end and Maryhill. Many of the wider benefits of the metro project hinge on shuffling some services off of the existing suburban rail infrastructure and onto new or reintroduced lines. This shuffling of services would be extremely limited, almost to the point of there being zero point in continuing with wider metro plans, if the Maryhill line isn't constructed.
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Created	Thu 23rd Feb 2023 1:05pm
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I do worry that there will be a sustained push against this specific line of the metro for this very reason (the bit it is slated to run partly through the northern end of KG park).

It does present issues, and although it would be a line running a very short distance along what was previously an active rail line anyway (90 years ago), you're right. It is a park now. It will be tricky to convince the public of its merit given the potential impact.

That said, it is such a vital link for a route which would extend out to Maryhill and potentially out as far as Drumchapel, serving communities with very limited transit options. Above this, the line would connect these areas to the Subway loop and regional lines that cross the path of the Botanics (via Exhibition Centre and Central Station). The line is also proposed to run south via Central Lower Level and along the Union Line bridge, on to to today's Cathcart Circle lines to the southside creating a direct rail connection between Southside and West End for the first time ever.

On balance, I really do think it is worth doing. If it ends up being lighter tram-like vehicles, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, disturbance-wise. And steps can be take to create grade separation at the park, should services be so frequent (pedestrian and cycle underpasses).

It's far from ideal, but this really is such a lynchpin for the line that I don't see an alternative. And not just the line in the context of the west end and Maryhill. Many of the wider benefits of the metro project hinge on shuffling some services off of the existing suburban rail infrastructure and onto new or reintroduced lines. This shuffling of services would be extremely limited, almost to the point of there being zero point in continuing with wider metro plans, if the Maryhill line isn't constructed.