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Author	smcsleazy
Comment	i would have rather they used a congestion charge over a low emissions zone. a low emissions zone targets the wrong people IMHO. even running a cheap beater right now is expensive as all hell and isn't going to fix the fact that some of the worst drivers in this city are the rich wankers in their BMW M5's or audi RS6's who think it's perfectly acceptable to act like king dickhead and do 45 MPH/run red lights while being loud, obnoxious assholes. at least a congestion charge would mean they have to pay £30 when entering the city center, bringing some money in for the city and reducing traffic. there are other reason's this ULEZ are being bought in. a lot of GCC's money is spent on road maintenance because car dependent infrastructure is expensive AND insolvent. before anyone says "but i pay my road tax" your road tax doesn't actually pay for road maintenance and if it did, you would be actually paying way more on road tax if places were to break even. the easiest way to make roads last longer is to build/maintain less of them. the busier a road is and the heavier the vehicles traveling on it and how fast their going usually determines how long the road is going to last (yes, the thawing process makes a difference too but i spent a winter in finland where their winters get as cold as -50 in some places and their summers are as hot as ours but their roads are nice) GCC are trying to limit it that way so they can justify making the roads in city center narrower, widening the pavements and building more cycle lanes, which i'm all for. cities are built for people, not for their cars. personally, i feel like actually hiring parking wardens would be a good start. there's a joke in the local cycling community that if GCC put a camera on howard street and argyll street outside the bank, charged every car parked in the cycle lane £30, most civic projects could be paid for in a week. people in GCC know this is an issue just like they know the issue with how many folk have been running red lights/speeding through city center/using phones while driving. so i think their seeing the ULEZ as a way to bring these numbers down over fining. a positive effect this will have is a rise in public transit use, which will then mean more money coming in for first bus and scotrail. i just hope they'll actually re-invest it in improving the services and infrastructure over giving it back to their shareholders.
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Created	Mon 27th Feb 2023 12:58pm
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i would have rather they used a congestion charge over a low emissions zone. a low emissions zone targets the wrong people IMHO. even running a cheap beater right now is expensive as all hell and isn't going to fix the fact that some of the worst drivers in this city are the rich wankers in their BMW M5's or audi RS6's who think it's perfectly acceptable to act like king dickhead and do 45 MPH/run red lights while being loud, obnoxious assholes.

at least a congestion charge would mean they have to pay £30 when entering the city center, bringing some money in for the city and reducing traffic.

there are other reason's this ULEZ are being bought in. a lot of GCC's money is spent on road maintenance because car dependent infrastructure is expensive AND insolvent. before anyone says "but i pay my road tax" your road tax doesn't actually pay for road maintenance and if it did, you would be actually paying way more on road tax if places were to break even. the easiest way to make roads last longer is to build/maintain less of them. the busier a road is and the heavier the vehicles traveling on it and how fast their going usually determines how long the road is going to last (yes, the thawing process makes a difference too but i spent a winter in finland where their winters get as cold as -50 in some places and their summers are as hot as ours but their roads are nice) GCC are trying to limit it that way so they can justify making the roads in city center narrower, widening the pavements and building more cycle lanes, which i'm all for. cities are built for people, not for their cars.

personally, i feel like actually hiring parking wardens would be a good start. there's a joke in the local cycling community that if GCC put a camera on howard street and argyll street outside the bank, charged every car parked in the cycle lane £30, most civic projects could be paid for in a week. people in GCC know this is an issue just like they know the issue with how many folk have been running red lights/speeding through city center/using phones while driving. so i think their seeing the ULEZ as a way to bring these numbers down over fining.

a positive effect this will have is a rise in public transit use, which will then mean more money coming in for first bus and scotrail. i just hope they'll actually re-invest it in improving the services and infrastructure over giving it back to their shareholders.