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Author	casiotone403
Comment	Cycling has people who can’t do it. Driving has people who can’t do it Public transport has people who can’t do it I don’t understand your point in singling out cycling when I’ve already said I support ALL THREE EXISTING? You seem to be picking and choosing what you consider inclusive and not-inclusive. If less people drove private cars for even a proportion of journeys then the roads would have less cars so that those who cannot cycle would probably get where they’re going faster. Same if more could get the bus or train, it would be a more balanced transit system instead of one like this morning, which was car traffic jam central partly because people didn’t feel they had any other option. Happy to share studies showing this exact improvement effect in other cities. It’s pretty cut and dry in any peer reviewed studies worldwide. Also the privilege thing - cycling is cheaper than a car. It appeals to those who don’t have money for driving. Sure there are enthusiasts spending thousands on it but that’s one small subset, same with drivers, but the idea that it’s a hobby of the bourgeoisie as opposed to a cheaper option for those wanting to get where they’re going whether they’re going is a bizarre take. You seem quite determined to ignore half of my posts and say I’ve said or implied things I haven’t, so I’m not sure where we go from here. Building cycle lanes doesn’t mean not providing buses and trains. They are separate (albeit related) things. Its about OPTIONS. Right now our options are awful and so few cycle lanes is the opposite of inclusion as it makes cycling more dangerous as a mode of transport. It’s quite simple really.
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Created	Tue 7th Nov 2023 4:19pm
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Cycling has people who can’t do it.

Driving has people who can’t do it

Public transport has people who can’t do it

I don’t understand your point in singling out cycling when I’ve already said I support ALL THREE EXISTING? You seem to be picking and choosing what you consider inclusive and not-inclusive. If less people drove private cars for even a proportion of journeys then the roads would have less cars so that those who cannot cycle would probably get where they’re going faster. Same if more could get the bus or train, it would be a more balanced transit system instead of one like this morning, which was car traffic jam central partly because people didn’t feel they had any other option. Happy to share studies showing this exact improvement effect in other cities. It’s pretty cut and dry in any peer reviewed studies worldwide.

Also the privilege thing - cycling is cheaper than a car. It appeals to those who don’t have money for driving. Sure there are enthusiasts spending thousands on it but that’s one small subset, same with drivers, but the idea that it’s a hobby of the bourgeoisie as opposed to a cheaper option for those wanting to get where they’re going whether they’re going is a bizarre take.

You seem quite determined to ignore half of my posts and say I’ve said or implied things I haven’t, so I’m not sure where we go from here. Building cycle lanes doesn’t mean not providing buses and trains. They are separate (albeit related) things. Its about OPTIONS. Right now our options are awful and so few cycle lanes is the opposite of inclusion as it makes cycling more dangerous as a mode of transport. It’s quite simple really.