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Author	Jenniferh9309
Comment	I don't know why I've put so much effort into this, but here we go. Also there will be a whole bunch of things wrong with this but I'm a 23 year old lassie and I'm hungover. Glasgow has 385 pubs (in 2018). Glasgow is roughly 67.5 square miles. Say each pub has at least one person getting drunk every night, that's 385 drunk people; now let's say that one quarter of them are rowdy, that's about 96 drunk people who could be anywhere in a 67.5 square mile radius every night. It's needles in a haystack. This doesn't take into consideration people getting drunk at home, or groups getting drunk in a public place, so we can probably suppose there's more than that number. But how much can someone be fined for walking along a street drunk? How much should someone be charged for making too much noise? Say it's a £50 fine for each person who is caught, let's say half of the people are caught - that's £2400 per night being made. Then, as someone has already said, it'd have to be police doing the job - a warden like we have for parking doesn't have the tools or training at his disposal for dealing with a serious conflict. And, if we were going to catch enough people to make this worthwhile, we'd need at least two police officers per 3 square miles (two because of the nature of the job). To make it fair, though, we'll half that - so we'd have 20 extra police on every night (2 police per 6 square miles). That's £520,000 basic salary per year, or £10000 per week and that's the lowest this will cost, because then you have admin fees, cost of vehicles, and the fact that this is based on first year salaries for each police officer. I'm not taking into account the surplus on a Friday and Saturday night, because there are more police then, but also more drunk people. That means that on the off chance that the two police officers in the 6 square mile radius were able to catch at least half the drunk and disorderly people, the council would make £6800 per week, at the absolute most. Locating the drunk people would depend on calls from residents or just sheer luck. And that's a risk that isn't worth taking. There are likely 1000 things wrong with my maths and understanding, but to me I think it's ridiculous that people are so up in arms about drunk people being too loud. We're a city with a really bad drinking problem - everyone knows it. Just mind your own business and get on with your life. If a drunk person has harassed you to the point where you feel significantly uncomfortable, or they've been on your street for long enough to cause disruption then call the police.
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Created	Sun 20th Oct 2019 2:07pm
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I don't know why I've put so much effort into this, but here we go. Also there will be a whole bunch of things wrong with this but I'm a 23 year old lassie and I'm hungover.

Glasgow has 385 pubs (in 2018). Glasgow is roughly 67.5 square miles. Say each pub has at least one person getting drunk every night, that's 385 drunk people; now let's say that one quarter of them are rowdy, that's about 96 drunk people who could be anywhere in a 67.5 square mile radius every night. It's needles in a haystack.

This doesn't take into consideration people getting drunk at home, or groups getting drunk in a public place, so we can probably suppose there's more than that number. But how much can someone be fined for walking along a street drunk? How much should someone be charged for making too much noise?

Say it's a £50 fine for each person who is caught, let's say half of the people are caught - that's £2400 per night being made. Then, as someone has already said, it'd have to be police doing the job - a warden like we have for parking doesn't have the tools or training at his disposal for dealing with a serious conflict. And, if we were going to catch enough people to make this worthwhile, we'd need at least two police officers per 3 square miles (two because of the nature of the job). To make it fair, though, we'll half that - so we'd have 20 extra police on every night (2 police per 6 square miles). That's £520,000 basic salary per year, or £10000 per week and that's the lowest this will cost, because then you have admin fees, cost of vehicles, and the fact that this is based on first year salaries for each police officer. I'm not taking into account the surplus on a Friday and Saturday night, because there are more police then, but also more drunk people.

That means that on the off chance that the two police officers in the 6 square mile radius were able to catch at least half the drunk and disorderly people, the council would make £6800 per week, at the absolute most. Locating the drunk people would depend on calls from residents or just sheer luck. And that's a risk that isn't worth taking.

There are likely 1000 things wrong with my maths and understanding, but to me I think it's ridiculous that people are so up in arms about drunk people being too loud. We're a city with a really bad drinking problem - everyone knows it. Just mind your own business and get on with your life. If a drunk person has harassed you to the point where you feel significantly uncomfortable, or they've been on your street for long enough to cause disruption then call the police.