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  • Sure you can in theory, but that's not what's happened in any meaningful way at the protest in Glasgow green last week. by Celtivo (Sun 14th Jun 2020 3:52pm)
  • Thanks, doing that seems like the best option. Just surprising the council doesn't take these! Can imagine some people would just lob them in a field somewhere. by Celtivo (Sun 9th Aug 2020 8:48pm)
  • Wouldn't be surprised if its actually more organised criminals these days. This is a huge issue in London where criminals have large and well organised networks where stealing motorcycles is an extremely lucrative business. The police just don't have the resources to deal with them. by Celtivo (Tue 15th Sep 2020 11:54am)
  • Slicks in Burnside by Celtivo (Wed 16th Sep 2020 5:22pm)
  • We've had the longest lockdown in Europe, and for what? We've got one of the highest death rates in the world, and looks like we're going down the exact same route again. We need to accept that people are going to die, and find a balance where the economy can continue to function. As said, this is just kicking the can down the road. To say that the scottish government have handled is remotely well is just mental. by Celtivo (Wed 7th Oct 2020 4:32pm)
  • Sure, our lockdown wasn't as harsh as others, but it was certainly just about as painful as others - both in terms of its impact on the economy, and wider impacts to public health. This idea that we can just continue to shut down entire industry's at a whim when cases flare up isn't a viably strategy - it's a knee-jerk panic reaction when things get out of control. The effects of this are absolutely devastating for the hospitality industry and those who work in it. If the last lockdown proved anything, it's that it was a temporary measure which kept things under control for a short period of time. Are we supposed to stay in this sort of state until a vaccine arrives? I'm in no way mandating for this whole 'herd immunity' idea where we get completely back to normal and just sacrifice the elderly, but the horrible fact of the matter is that people ARE going to die, and the virus is going to spread. The idea that we can eradicate it from a country like Scotland/UK is impossible. What I'm saying is we need to find a balance where life can continue to an extent whilst social distancing and other restrictions continue. Or you know, how about actually enforcing the restrictions we currently have? The vast majority of new infections are in peoples homes. The problem is, people haven't been and will continue to disobey the guidance. by Celtivo (Wed 7th Oct 2020 5:13pm)
  • > Why not? It's literally the strategy that was proposed from the beginning, back in the Imperial report in March that instructed the first lockdown. That modelling clearly showed the need for repeated cycles of increasing restrictions every few months, in particular in the winter season. If you think that shutting down entire industries at a whim is a valid and sustainable strategy long term, then I'm really not even sure where to start. If this sort of strategy continues into next year or whenever a vaccine arrives, the economy will be absolutely annihilated for generations to come. > ....yes? Although not just a vaccine, in the shorter term therapeutic treatments may become available that mean we can greatly restrict transmission, and of course the better we get at testing and tracing the more loose we can be with restrictions Same as my last point. We can't stay in a state where entire industries and shut down months at a time long term. Restrictions like social distancing, limits on gatherings, visiting peoples homes, sure. But closing down massive chunks of the economy isn't sustainable. > There is no eradication plan, Maybe my terminology is wrong, but Sturgeon was banging on about eradication (or whatever the word is) for all of June/July/August. It was the reason we had the longest lockdown in Europe, and the major cons the country that entailed. > If R and prevalence get beyond a certain point, we go to widespread infection in a matter of weeks Yes, but is possible to reach a point with the right level of restrictions where the R number is 0.8-1.2. >At the moment we are facing prevalence being higher than in March within 3 weeks I get that, which is why it's clear how horribly poor this has been handled over the past couple of months the fact we are in this position. But shutting down the entire hospitality industry isn't guaranteed to prevent that from happening, nor is it even likely. What is guaranteed is that it signs the death warrant of thousands of businesses and jobs. 80%+ of new infections are happening either in peoples homes, or other places. How about we shut down the businesses that arn't enforcing the restrictions rather than this blanket 'kill the industry' move? > Fundamentally, hospitality = socialising = people in close proximity = infections. Like above, its possible for hospitality and socialising to be done in a relatively safe way, as many businesses have shown (I'm not suggesting it doesn't drive infections to an extent). Hospitality is not the driver of the current wave of infections. > What do you actually propose for this? I don't know the exact answer, but I would start by actually handing out the big fines to people who are breaking the rules. Most of my family just don't give a fuck, and will continue to not give a fuck despite any restrictions. Until they hear about a friend who's been slammed with a £1000 fine, they'll continue to do what they do. by Celtivo (Wed 7th Oct 2020 6:02pm)
  • > I think this is our fundamental difference. We can shut down the entire hospitality industry. Yes, I think this is the main point where we're not meeting. In my opinion the consequences both socially and economically of complete lockdowns are no longer a viable strategy at this stage of the pandemic. Back in March it absolutely was the only option and was the right thing to do, but at this point many other countries have shown that society can continue to an extent without infections and consequently deaths becoming absolutely insane (see Sweden, and even the US at this point - their death rate is similar to ours despite their business being allowed to continue operating). > The main problem is that the rules are broadly unenforceable. I agree, but this is the real crux of the problem we're in. If the rules designed to stop the vast majority of the transmission are unenforceable, and therefore ignored, what use is shutting down entire industries and destroying their economy's if people are going to ignore the big high impact restrictions anyway (like meeting in peoples homes)? Hospitality is being scapegoated here for I believe very little potential gains. by Celtivo (Wed 7th Oct 2020 6:32pm)
  • Honestly at this point it's pretty clear that the virus isn't going to be eliminated from the country like was the plan back in July. If the R number is still sitting around 1 where cases have plateaued with hospitals managing, even more restrictions (level 4) is a big, costly mistake. The goal from here till the vaccine should be to prevent the virus from rising exponentially again - if that means sitting in level 3 for a few more months then its the best option. by Celtivo (Wed 11th Nov 2020 9:04pm)
  • I'm wondering if this is the same woman who shouted 'fucking bastard!!' to me outside the spoons at the other side of central when I ignored her shouting at me for spare change. This was just before the first lockdown though... Definitely caught me off guard. I'm a 6ft5 guy so I can only imagine how some of them approach more vulnerable looking people. Really upsetting what this area of town has came to these days. I'm sure you regret it but yeah don't ever give these types around central anything, never mind a tenner. Easy to say now though as I'm sure it was very intimidating. by Celtivo (Sun 22nd Nov 2020 12:02am)
  • The thing is, that literally is what the SNP's whole purpose is. They are a single issue party who have found themselves in control of large swaves of government. Can you imagine if the Brexit party found themselves as the UK government with Farage as PM? It's the exact some thing only they come in the form of Scottish nationalists in Scotland. They don't have any core policies or principles other than the single issue of independence at all costs, and all policy decisions are designed to achieve this single goal. by Celtivo (Sun 22nd Nov 2020 12:14am)
  • Although I agree with you to an extent, a lot of these people have and still are offered help from government and charities etc. The problem however always comes back to drugs. When an addict can't get access to their high in these schemes, then a lot of the time they will end up back on the streets in the same vicious cycle. by Celtivo (Sun 22nd Nov 2020 1:52am)
  • Exactly. The only way this lockdown will have any impact at least remotely close to the one in March is if there are clear consequences for breaking the rules. Unfortunately that means the police NEED to start handing out fines to the regular, otherwise law abiding people who have completely ignored the restrictions for the past 4 months. My parents and siblings have completely ignored the no household mixing rules since August, and this new lockdown isn't going to change that. I suspect a large percentage of the country is in the same camp. Lockdown without enforcement simply punishes those who abide by the rules. Everyone else can and will do whatever they like. by Celtivo (Mon 4th Jan 2021 9:06pm)
  • No idea why you're getting downvoted. You're right. Source: I work there. by Celtivo (Sun 7th Feb 2021 7:21pm)
  • They don't pay £42k, its less. by Celtivo (Sun 7th Feb 2021 7:20pm)
  • You say that, but look at Florida and most of America right now. They have been wide open with night clubs, parties, the lot all going on since June last year. Lower death rate than us, and cases similarly plummeting like ours currently are. by Celtivo (Sun 21st Feb 2021 10:14pm)
  • I thought things would have been getting ugly way before now. I really thought there would be riots on the streets if they tried implementing a lockdown 2+ after July, but here we are. I'm not one of these extreme anti-lockdowers, but I'm honestly a bit disappointed the general public have put with with having their basic civil liberties outlawed by the government for 9 of the last 12 months, with a large percentage still quite happy with the prospect of this current lockdown lasting till after April. If there's one thing the government has done well, its been that they've somehow managed to convince the masses that what's currently going on is worth the sacrifices. by Celtivo (Sun 21st Feb 2021 10:10pm)
  • If you're wanting to go with the conspiracy theory angle on Florida, go for it. However unless you think there's a major China style coverup going on in Florida, its unlikely to have any major impact on the point I'm making. 30 thousand deaths vs 7 thousand is an irrelevant statistic. UK currently has 1770 deaths per capita (with the long, strict relatively strict lockdown and all the damage that's caused), vs Florida at 1380 deaths per capita (unless of course you want to double down on the conspiracy angle) with their economy wide open and people living their lives. by Celtivo (Sun 21st Feb 2021 11:08pm)
  • You might not be quite happy, but a large group of people are. Mostly those doing their WFH jobs packing away thousands into savings each month from their cosy jobs. The scientists are the ones telling us what to do to get cases down, correct - that's their job. They aren't necessarily the ones weighing up the damage that lockdown causes to society - the politicians are. Even WHO have said that strict lockdowns are not the way forward, but here we are. by Celtivo (Sun 21st Feb 2021 11:14pm)
  • Please do not use my vote to remain part of the EU as a vote to leave the UK and further your separatist agenda. Being an anti separatist is one of the reasons I wanted to remain part of the UK. > The SNP won by a fucking land slide and yet you say you think half of Scots will still vote no? I assume you are talking about the latest UK general election where the SNP won 80%+ of the seats. You are clearly unaware of how our voting system works, but the SNP only gained 45% of the vote - that's hardly an indicator of increased support for independence considering the referendum we had only 6.5 years ago returned the same result. Just having a read through this thread there's certainly only one person who needs to go back to school. by Celtivo (Fri 5th Mar 2021 6:32pm)
  • Look, it's clear you're just going to insult anything and anyone who questions what you're saying, but I'll respond anyway. > are you saying that because you wanted to stay apart of the EU that’s the reason you want to stay apart of the union That's not what I said at all. The point I'm making is that I firmly believe we are a better country when working as close as possible with our neighbours - domestic and aboard. Scotland is a better country within the UK and within the EU, that's my opinion. However, our relationship with rUK is significantly more important than it with the EU, due to our shared cultural and domestic ties, never mind the significantly higher amount of trading. I'm not a separatist like yourself - we are better together. Onto your second point. I'm convinced you just haven't a clue how our voting system works, but I'll explain anyway. Westminster MP's are elected in a first past the post system. Scotland electing 80% plus of MP's from the SNP does not necessarily signal the majority of the country supporting them (as I mentioned, only 45% of the country did). > but hey that doesn’t mean people are wanting to vote yes It absolutely doesn't. I reference my explanation of first past the post voting system once again. I urge you to keep spouting this shite about how the majority of the country (55%~) of the country are racists and hate Scotland - that's definitely going to win you independence. by Celtivo (Fri 5th Mar 2021 7:29pm)
  • Makes you wonder why the police don't just stomp through these crowds to disperse them. I've watched a few of those protests in London and they have these Police Territorial Support Vans that are there within 5 mins with hundreds of cops flying out the back. Protests are done before they even get started. by Celtivo (Sat 6th Mar 2021 3:41pm)
  • It's a joke how little the Police are taking action on all of this really. There's a fucking bouncy castle out on my street right now with union jacks hanging off it. Neighbours over the back were clearly having a party into the wee hours last night. Brother in law is away to a party tonight. Wonder what they are all celebrating, eh? The police have just completely gave up at this point (not that they ever have tried to properly enforce the lockdown). How could they not have seen this coming especially after Ibrox yesterday? I can totally understand ordinary folk just straight up ignoring all restrictions from here on out after seeing what's happened this weekend. If the police aren't willing to enforce blatant rule breaking like this, then frankly the government should just end every restriction right here right now. The only people suffering are the people trying to do the right thing. Disgrace. by Celtivo (Sun 7th Mar 2021 5:27pm)
  • I think Rangers absolutely should have put out either an urgent statement or a tweet after things were kicking off in George Square telling people to go home. They made over 50 tweets on Sunday, not a peep about the riot going on in George Square in the middle of a pandemic. I'll not even go into the picture of Stevie G hanging out the window celebrating with fans - I bet you he wasn't telling them to go home then! It simply encouraged them further. That said, I don't think Rangers should be singularly scapegoated by the Government. The Police and local authorities seemingly just let it happen. The Police gave them an escort for fucks sake into George Square. It's actually laughable how little fines and arrests they made on Sunday. I don't blame half the Rangers fans really for thinking about joining in on the celebrations after seeing the live photos of about 3 Police vans just sitting there for the entire night. There needs to be an inquiry into the Police response. They should have been prepared for Sunday - they clearly weren't, even after the taster of what was to come outside Ibrox on the Saturday. As a Glaswegian, Sunday made me absolutely embarrassed to call this city home. by Celtivo (Tue 9th Mar 2021 5:12pm)
  • Exactly... My problem with the Kenmure street 'protest' is nothing to do with the reasoning for it - the reasoning for a large gathering just isn't relevant if they are both technically against the law - otherwise exemptions should have been included in the law in the first place for 'righteous' protests. You cannot condemn Rangers fans today without also condemning the gathering on Thursday. It can't be right that protests/gatherings are only allowed to happen for things you agree with - it fundamentally breaches the very principle of free speech. The argument of 'well the lives of 2 refugees matters more than 11 men kicking a ball' - however true or false you think that is, it's only your opinion. I have no time for any of the SNP/Labour/Tory politicians picking and choosing which gatherings to condemn/encourage, unless they specifically argued either for the restrictions to not exist in the first place, or that there should be exemptions for gatherings depending based on whether they are 'just' or not (which would be ludicrous due to that being an entirely subjective matter). by Celtivo (Sat 15th May 2021 9:00pm)
  • So the impression of the point I think you're trying to make here, is that only gatherings which 'achieve' something you agree with should be allowed. Okay - who gets to decide which gatherings 'achieve' the most good? YourCrosswordPuzzle? The police commander of the day? The government? If your answer is the government, then why hasn't the government included exemptions for protests such as the Kenmure street one, or Free Palestine? There isn't specific exemptions included in the restrictions because it counteracts the very principle of free thought and speech. No one - including you or the government gets to decide that Palestine marches matter more than a Rangers march. by Celtivo (Sat 15th May 2021 9:07pm)
  • The law makes no real distinction. If there is a distinction, why isn't these specific distinctions included in law? Also, just to be clear then, if the Rangers fans today were, lets say anti vax/anti-lockdown protestors, would you have supported their right to protest? by Celtivo (Sat 15th May 2021 9:49pm)
  • That's fair enough, and something I can agree with. My point still stands though that as far as the law is concerned, there is no difference between the Rangers 'party' today and any 'free Palestine' marches as such. The reasoning for that is it's not easy to distinguish between what seems like a party, and a protest without breaching our fundamental rights. I'm sure an argument could be made that Rangers fans today were technically 'protesting' something. by Celtivo (Sat 15th May 2021 10:11pm)
  • Devi Sridhar the health professor (big difference from epidemiologist) and Jason Leith the dentist are the ones behind this nonsense. They are obsessed (and show the obsession very publicly) with a provably unachievable zero-covid approach in Scotland, and have both consistently attempted to use New Zealand as a model we should follow - despite our demographics making such a compassion completely impossible. We've went from apparently following the evidence, to quite clearly ignoring the evidence. The evidence is clear right now that the vaccines we have used on the vast majority of the population (and all remotely vulnerable people) offer a previously unheard of level of protection against the virus at 91% (and likely even higher against serious illness or death). Total farce. I'm seriously starting to consider if there is another motive behind this nonsense, or that the people like Devi just can't let things go back to normality as it would mean the end of her constant media appearances. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 4:59pm)
  • They're still playing by the same rule book as we had before vaccines were a thing. They're completely ignoring the evidence that vaccines work against all variants, and choosing to continue the destruction of the countries economy and wellbeing based on a 'just in case' that is simply untrue. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:04pm)
  • They're currently sitting on 1 million unused vaccines that could be going into our arms today, instead of this total nonsense we're having to experience right now. Don't worry folks, I'm sure your blue letter will be sent out and posted to you soon enough. Just hold your horses. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:07pm)
  • Which really disappoints me to be honest. Whether you agree with lockdown or not, you have to accept that what we've experienced over the last year is the greatest breach of our freedoms and civil liberties probably ever. I couldn't think of a single issue in our recent history which greater warranted protests on the streets. Unfortunately if you do go to the streets in protest, you are likely to be lumped in with the same nutters who are regulars to anti-vax protests, Rangers riots, and the like. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:13pm)
  • It's honestly embarrassing to see Glasgow just accept this shite. She could keep us locked up till Christmas and I still don't see anyone here doing anything about it. The majority of our city just gave them confirmation at the election that they're more than happy to take these restrictions up the arse - I don't see the motivation for anything to change. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:10pm)
  • Glasgow has had the longest set of lockdown restrictions in Europe. Fact. But we handled the pandemic well btw - here, you may as well govern us for another 5 years :). by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:18pm)
  • Glasgow has had the longest set of lockdown restrictions anywhere in Europe (and possibly in the world?). Shambles. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:16pm)
  • if (something == bad) { Blame(Boris); } Vote(SNP); by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:22pm)
  • Which just makes me sad, honestly. Glasgow has had the longest lockdown restrictions in the whole of Europe, with one of the worst death rates from this virus, yet a majority of people here voted the exact same fuckers in to do the same to us for another 5 years. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:21pm)
  • I'd wager it's got something to do with the archaic system we're currently using of people having to wait for a blue envelope to come through the door. The lag between realising there is spare capacity to that envelope getting through the door is likely not to be underestimated. by Celtivo (Fri 21st May 2021 5:59pm)
  • None to the same authoritarian extent as the SNP though. Tories have been arguing for a while for restrictions to be released earlier. Not sure on Labour's official stance, but Paul Sweeney on Twitter has been pretty vocal in opposing the restrictions in place in Glasgow atm. Greens, well, they are the SNP side kicks. by Celtivo (Sat 22nd May 2021 9:21pm)
  • Where did she say Glasgow is to move to level 2 next Saturday? She's been saying for the last 8 months that Glasgow will move down the tiers if things go well, so it's not exactly any different. I'm sure this '3 week circuit breaker' will be extended for 'just one more week' by next Friday. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 12:33pm)
  • Just one more week left of the 3 week circuit breaker folks, something to get excited about! by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 12:41pm)
  • You mean to tell me the circuit breaker won't end at the end of October like was planned? No way! by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 12:51pm)
  • I think it's highly unlikely that will happen. We've had 15 months now of our freedoms and basic civil liberties being snatched by the government, and there hasn't been a notable protest/demo in Scotland to date. Not to mention we had an election just a month ago were the SNP increased their vote share by an even greater amount in Glasgow. The people are more than happy for this to continue, if democracy is anything to go by. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 1:38pm)
  • You're making the mistake of assuming that case numbers mean automatic increases/decreases in tiers. It's people - the government - the SNP who decides what tier an area stays in or moves to. The goalposts have been moved constantly throughout the pandemic. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 1:42pm)
  • What's getting worse though? Deaths are are close to the lowest they've ever been since the start of the pandemic. It's you (and the SNP) who are deciding that cases increasing warrants increased restrictions. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 2:19pm)
  • Assuming your talking about the Indian variant, where are you getting 'less understood' from? There is mounting evidence that our vaccines are just as effective against it as all other variants. Are you suggestion we remain locked down indefinitely just incase a yet to be discovered varaint which avoids vaccines crops up? Your argument here deliberately ignores the key fact that 70%+ of all adults, and all vulnerable people have been vaccinated - making them near immune to the disease. Your using the same argument as was used this time last year. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 2:31pm)
  • 'go chill out' - ah, so we're supposed to just chill out while our cities economy, well being, and general health is being absolutely ravaged by these restrictions. Fantastic suggestion. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 2:43pm)
  • I've been 'chilling out' for the last 15 months mate, that's exactly the last thing I fancy continuing to do for the foreseeable future, and I suspect most fellow Glaswegians feel the same way. My patience with this shite is finished. by Celtivo (Fri 28th May 2021 2:46pm)
  • https://twitter.com/ncceltic/status/1416351416487133184?s=21 It was the Green Brigade (Celtic’s football ultras) ‘celebrating’ their 15th anniversary. by Celtivo (Sat 17th Jul 2021 12:16pm)
  • > through less money from Holyrood and Westminster This has nothing to do with Westminster, and everything to do with an SNP run council refusing to stand up to the SNP government who have cut local council funding massively over the last 10 years. Westminster doesn't fund GCC - the Scottish Government do. by Celtivo (Sun 8th Aug 2021 10:19pm)
  • The cynic in me says that the folk who are trying to say Govanhill is a nice place are still doing so in protest against that rocket who done those Facebook live streams months ago. Was most of his videos complete bollocks? Yes. Is Govanhill still a shitehole? Yes. by Celtivo (Wed 11th Aug 2021 9:42pm)
  • Yes because I should be taking full responsibility for parking in a dedicated council parking space that happens to have a 30cm deep hole in it, filled with rain water and crisp packets. Personal responsibility init. by Celtivo (Wed 18th Aug 2021 2:04pm)
  • I didn't know there was foot deep hole there, that's the point. I generally assume the roads I pay for wont wreck my car, or at least that's the mistake I made. by Celtivo (Wed 18th Aug 2021 4:00pm)
  • You think the reason the SNP run GCC is because of 'local reasons'? Common man. Seriously, what does a single issue nationalist party have to offer on local issues? I honestly don't even care who runs the council, it just needs to be people who will actually stand up for and care about the city, and will actually make real substantial demands from the government at Holyrood. Local council funding has been cut year on year, but you can bet your arse the SNP council won't complain about it to their big bosses. by Celtivo (Fri 5th Nov 2021 12:01am)
  • Aww sorry to say but you royally fucked this one up. You can safely ignore these clown invoices or lob them in the bin, whatever you fancy. I've got a pile of about 80 of these letters, not even joking. The payment plan you arranged is probably now linked to your credit, so you've gotta pay it now unless you want to fuck up your credit score too. by Celtivo (Tue 16th Nov 2021 5:51pm)