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> Public and active transport are much more efficient at moving people around In places with a good mass transit system maybe but between the unreliability of our public transports options and the shite connections to some areas it being "much more efficient" is largely a theoretical than an actual thing for many people. by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 10:09am)

If our public transport options weren't so shite and unreliable it might be more incentive for people to use them as their primary means of transport. by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 10:10am)

If you ignore football I'd say we're generally pretty open and tolerant compared to most of the UK. Even the racism and Islamophobia and all that shit is at worst just the same as elsewhere if not in many cases better. All that sectarian football pish is the only thing really dragging us down but it feels like we'll never be done with that nonsense sadly. by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 1:05pm)

An option for some sure but we've hardly got an amazing infrastructure for that from a great many places too never mind the pish weather also making it something many would only consider at certain points in the year. The people who cycle in on shitey routes in pishy weather as their regular commute I admire but I could never become one of them myself. by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 5:20pm)

Weather can be coped with but very few people will be happy doing it daily during the periods of the year with shit weather (so most of it). You're obviously a big cycling fan but you have to already be aware then most people don't share your enthusiasm. And the infrastructure if you're not on lucky routes is pish. It's doable but compare to places with an actual cycling infrastructure and it's night and day. Even places where some complain about their cycling infrastructure (like Berlin, I live there right now) is miles ahead and while that's obviously a city on another scale you can just look to smaller places in the Netherlands to see what can be done (admittedly they're bike daft which makes it easier too) by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 6:18pm)

Who said it was impossible? They're not cop outs they're reasons. It can be done but you have to live in the real world and no matter how much you love cycling you can't expect everyone else to agree with you because it's no impossible. No point arguing with you further you're clearly too much in love with the idea of cycling to talk real world. Anybody who's no disabled or commuting from 50+ miles away should be cycling eh? Totally agree (I don't) by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 6:24pm)

Cheers for the constructive feedback now get on your bike mate by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 6:29pm)

I was talking a lot more generally than just the picture but fair point for this specific situation at least that wouldn't be a great excuse (though the transport being shite and sometimes unreliable still comes in even if you live and work right next to a station - that's manageable though). by ndop (Thu 7th Nov 2019 7:26pm)

If someone is doing it due to a mistake they're obviously not the people this is meant to be talking about. We all fuck up from time to time, this is about the cunts who think their time is more valuable than everyone else and the rules don't apply to them. Certain sections of the M8 is full of them, thank fuck I don't need to make that part of my commute anymore. by ndop (Thu 28th Nov 2019 4:35pm)

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Baker-Ross-Glow-Children-Halloween/dp/B00O4X2FBQ/ This looks pretty similar... by ndop (Mon 2nd Dec 2019 2:08pm)

What a shit picture. Could be any old nonce up on stage by ndop (Fri 6th Dec 2019 3:46pm)

They definitely used to do alterations but were never the quickest for it in my experience. by ndop (Fri 6th Dec 2019 4:11pm)

I'd say tipping in places like Starbucks would be more rounding up a small amount so if it comes to 2.80 you pay 3 quid and the 20p goes in the tip jar. Proper sit down restaurants is when you start doing the x% of the bill tipping but as you say optional and not expected everywhere always the way it is in the states. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:49pm)

There are very few good reasons to be carrying around an otherwise illegal knife when wandering around the city centre at night though. "Am a chef on my way back from work with ma machete and aye I always get dressed for clubbing and pished up at work". Think even in those cases you're supposed to try to keep them secured etc if reasonable to do so too so even if you actually are a chef you shouldn't be hiding the blade in your coat pocket ready to go on the way to work. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:45pm)

Compared to the US we've definitely got a MUCH more lax tipping culture. It's all relative. Compared to some other places we're reasonably generous tippers but it's far from the mandatory 20% everywhere shit the yanks do. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:53pm)

I've heard some "they're brave wearing that" type comments on the subway when some neutral ends up on a train full of fans on matchdays but beyond the person maybe feeling a little intimidated if they pick up on it never known anything to come of that kind of shite. Think you'd really have to be on the wind up or make some exceptionally bad choices to end up in real trouble over just wearing a blue/green top in a green/blue area. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:52pm)

Why do we tip them and not the minimum wage guy putting my shit through the tills in a supermarket? Or the wee guy cutting the grass for the council? Or the....you get the idea. I do tip but the whole you tip these people always, these people sometimes and not these people who are all making shit wages and would appreciate a bit extra is a totally arbitrary distinction. What makes waitstaff so much more deserving of extra money than almost all other poorly paid jobs? by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:57pm)

No one's saying it's required but it's also not true that it's not a thing here. Near mandatory tipping is not a thing here, optional tipping is not only a thing here it's a very frequently practised thing in certain situations (proper restaurants, taxis etc). We typically tip less than the whole yank 20% type thing too but tipping is very much a thing here even if you don't *have* to. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 3:55pm)

That's nice but it completely dodges my why only them and not other minimum wage workers question. Why do waitstaff deserve the inflation via tips but few others do? You want people to be paid more. Great! Me too. But why this system where it's only special designated jobs that benefit and no cunt else? When in reality there's an argument to be made the people this benefits most is the owners of these businesses as it reduces pressure on them to pay better since it's done for them via tips. I'm all for tipping but I'm yet to hear a good argument for why jobs a, b and c deserve tips while jobs x, y and z just get their shite wage and fuck all else. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 4:09pm)

Do you think your waitstaff job is tougher than all other low paid jobs out there and so deserving of better pay via tips? Are you really that arrogant? They might have downplayed your job with their language but the general point is still right that there's nothing especially more difficult than waitstaff work compared to MANY other low paid jobs which don't get tipped. And I notice they're right so far and you are completely dodging the question again, replying to him and ignoring me. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 4:47pm)

You'd be fine if you were on way to/from a fishing trip aye but the fact it's not so easily accessible in your fishing box would help you there if for some weird reason you were stopped too. If you were stoating about town with a knife in your pocket and explained you were going to catch the bus to meet your mates for a fishing trip you'd have a far harder time proving your case (might still be possible though) There are ways you can legally carry a knife but in the context of this thread no really and in the ways the daft naive OP is on about definitely not. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 5:51pm)

Too unoriginal and predictable for it, timing doesn't really matter. by ndop (Mon 9th Dec 2019 8:21pm)

Scottish labour = Tories? There's really no talking to some people when it comes to politics... by ndop (Thu 12th Dec 2019 12:28pm)

Well the tories have openly said they won't be having it and they're looking likely to win overall so seems like a fairly safe bet. If by some miracle Labour win down south then it might happen but that's no looking likely so far. by ndop (Thu 12th Dec 2019 12:27pm)

But if getting grades is easier then more people have them which means you stand out less if you have them. Instead of the top 30% going to uni it's the top 60% and suddenly you've got a workforce full of qualified people who think they should be in "good jobs" as they've got a degree but not enough degree level jobs to take them all. Improving education is a good thing but just gaming the system to make more people get grades doesn't make anything better except the pass rate statistics. by ndop (Thu 12th Dec 2019 12:30pm)

Get the polis on to them once or twice with noise complaints and the owners will be quick to start making sure the bouncers move people on again. Sometimes you've got to be a wee bit of a dick in the short term for longer term good. by ndop (Thu 12th Dec 2019 6:14pm)

Any time I mention on here cycling is...not optimum in this city unless you're lucky enough to live on the routes which are decent for it I get eviscerated by folks who seem to think as long as there's a route it's great for cycling. Nice to see a different tone in this thread and people accepting that from many places it's far from ideal to cycle here. Would be great to see us aim to be like Copenhagen or the Netherlands or whatever - obviously it would take a long time to get to their level but they also went from not really having the infrastructure to where they are now, it's doable for us in theory at least and it'd be a great "green" boost for those in power to point to. by ndop (Wed 18th Dec 2019 1:15pm)

There seem to be a few hardcore cyclists who take no excuses for people not cycling or who might be a bit put off by the idea sometimes. "Infrastructure is good enough", "weather's fine for a 20 mile cycle if you dress right" etc. It's pish for cycling here. Not built for it apart from a few areas, drivers and cyclists aren't good at peacefully coexisting (admittedly better infrastructure would improve that a lot) and the pishy weather for much of the year is also going to turn a lot of people off the idea especially for longer commutes, even if you can dress for it and manage it most of the time it's no hard to understand that a lot of people aren't going to want to spend a lot of time on a bike when a gale is blowing cold rain directly into their face the whole journey. I like the idea of the city being bike friendly - I live somewhere else right now that is a lot more bike friendly and it's something I like here - but some of the mad biking lovers seem to think because they don't mind cycling on the road in the dark in pish weather for miles with drivers trying to kill them that everybody else should think the same and accept cycling isn't a problem here. by ndop (Wed 18th Dec 2019 4:02pm)

Aye Copenhagen and the Dutch hardly have fair weather year round either and they've still made the places great for cycling. Bit of an advantage especially for the Dutch with their country being flat as fuck but that's still something we can work round. Hopefully the cycling infrastructure will continue to improve over time but we've a LONG ways to go yet. by ndop (Thu 19th Dec 2019 11:09am)

Legally it would be an absolute nightmare to try to draw a difference between them. We all understand it's sectarian pish but officially speaking they're a group celebrating their history, religion, politics etc...start banning that and you set some shaky legal precedents that either could lead to other things we might not want banned being banned or would lead to a ban on them being overturned because they're being treated differently from these other groups without a sound legal justification for doing so. by ndop (Thu 19th Dec 2019 2:01pm)

> The orange and republican stuff should definitely be banned but, what is the fuckin point The point is that a lot of gobshites want to do it. I definitely think the number of them should be greatly reduced but I struggle to justify outright banning it from ever happening - just because I don't like it doesn't mean it should be banned is pretty much my thinking. If a large group of people want to march for whatever shite they want to march for I don't think the local council should be the ones to decide what's acceptable and what isn't - as long as they're within the laws of the land (so they can't openly be a hate parade but just behind the surface as it is now) then they get the same treatment as pride or whatever else. But just like pride or whatever else it should be a once a year thing or some frequency along those lines - even for stuff I like I'd be pissed off if they were at it constantly never mind this archaic sectarian pish. Give them their day if they need it but that's it give them a day and no more. by ndop (Thu 19th Dec 2019 2:00pm)

*like* Klan rallies but as far as anything official goes they don't have any hate in what they're there for (in reality most of the people who attend do of course) It is stupid and outdated but unless you just want to ban all parades and marches it's very tricky to target them or the republicans or whoever else specifically. If they openly say we want a "we hate cafflicks" march then it's simple you can ban that but if they want a march to celebrate a victory in some battle they think is important...how's that different from a remembrance day thing? (legally and on paper, we know the differences in reality but it's difficult to ban based on that) I'd love to see all this shit disappear but as long as you're allowing pride and independence and climate and rememberance and whatever other people to march it's very tricky to ban the sectarians in a fair, legal manner. Take Germany as another example. They've got actual laws against nazis and yet neo-nazis get their right to march, protest etc very often. They're much smaller groups and usually get drowned out by a counter protest but much like our problem their scumbags dress up their hate as something else on the surface even though everyone knows better and it's difficult to go after them legally because of it. by ndop (Thu 19th Dec 2019 3:14pm)

If reasonably close and you've no other option but to fight, yes. You should usually try to de-escalate a situation if at all possible before you try a potentially life or death rush at them approach. by ndop (Mon 23rd Dec 2019 2:07am)

That sounds like a pretty exceptional case. The overlap of people who might be crazy to stab someone and people who would recognise an expensive dog breed over any other dog is very small never mind that your dog type is very common here. Rare tragedy is always possible but it's not a realistic concern unless you're doing something to attract the wrong kind of attention. Glasgow is far safer today than its historic reputation might suggest but any large city will always have some amount of bad shit you can find if you read up the wrong stories. by ndop (Tue 24th Dec 2019 10:58am)

There's definitely an argument to be made that none of the "communist" states that have existed where ever really true communism though. I'm not the best person to argue the details of that I'm no communist but saying the USSR was shit is more evidence their version of "communism" was fucked than that communism itself is a bad idea. My limited understanding of communism always makes it sound like a nice idea in a theory but an infeasible one in practice to me. by ndop (Mon 6th Jan 2020 5:45pm)

But where these attempts actually trying to achieve true communism? Did Stalin want true communism or did he just want control and "communism" is what gave him it? As I said I agree it might not be feasible in reality but I'm not convinced the attempts that have existed really wanted true communism too though, it was just the name they used for something that approximated it in a few ways but differed in so many others. by ndop (Tue 7th Jan 2020 9:55am)

Limmy's Show could be helpful too. He's mild to medium in terms of accent difficulty but does a pretty full range throughout his comedy in different parts. Still Game is for the most part a fairly mild version too with stronger bits thrown in here and there but for a foreigner once people realise they're not native most would tone their accent and slang use etc down to be more mild anyway. by ndop (Tue 7th Jan 2020 2:43pm)

> In reality, all efforts to create communist societies decline into these situations you reference above because it simply isn’t compatible with human nature I agree with the human nature incompatibility part which is what I was getting at when I said it's nice in theory but infeasible in practice but I'm not sure the big famous efforts to "create communist societies" really were that at least not by those who took hold of those movements and eventually lead them. I'm not an expert on this topic and while I think "true communism" and human nature might be incompatible I also don't think we've ever seen a serious effort to make true communism at least by those in the power to do it (many of their early supporters may have actually wanted it). Stalinism and true communism are miles apart. Modern day China call themselves communist but tons of experts will tell you their economic policy is primarily capitalist despite their claims. Almost everything we have seen that is "communist" is communist in name only - maybe it started out as a real communist movement but they all lost their way. I guess the question is did they lose it because human nature means it's impossible to even implement real communism on a big scale for a little while or did they lose it because the people who got into power took things in their own directions that benefitted them and their buddies. Maybe the reality is a mix of the two. > Not that there’s nothing wrong with capitalism btw. It is far from perfect too, but far, FAR preferable to communism Aye capitalism is fucked up in many ways with all sorts of problems in it but it's proven to be the best we can make work so far (at least, modified versions of it - outright unrestricted capitalism not so much). Hopefully we can figure out something else or further refinements and adaptations to capitalism to improve it's problems. by ndop (Tue 7th Jan 2020 6:23pm)

Female to male can change through hormone treatment. Male to female won't physically change (without surgery) but people will often take on an affectation and feminise their voice themselves. Starts out as a deliberate conscious effort but if you do it enough over a long period of time it just becomes how you talk. by ndop (Mon 13th Jan 2020 2:05pm)

> The people who send these guys out Are guys like this really "sent out". I know Jehovas and the like are organised (and a lot less in your face partly due to that) but I always assumed guys like this were lone nutjobs rather than being sent out by anyone but the voices in their own heads. by ndop (Tue 21st Jan 2020 3:13pm)

They really might especially if someone was doing it repeatedly. For a one off they'd probably give you a wee official talking to but not actually give a fuck but for a repeat offender they might actually have to take action - most of them probably wouldn't like it either but he's no wrong that this could fall under vandalism. Imagine if instead of telling cunts they're parking like cunts it was big stickers of <insert thing you really don't like here> like most people I think you'd be a lot quicker to think action should be taken against it then. That being said you'd have to be fucking daft to do this in front of polis or in a way you'd get caught for it. In reality even if it could technically be classed as vandalism you'd have to be making an effort to get caught for it to actually happen. by ndop (Wed 29th Jan 2020 9:58pm)

That surprises me, I'd have assumed the British Museum would be ahead of it at least but you're right Tate Modern just edges it. by ndop (Thu 30th Jan 2020 12:19pm)

National museums have to be free entry for the permanent collections by UK law. I'm not sure which museums are "national" ones and which aren't but any that are have no choice on the free entry thing (except for temporary exhibits) by ndop (Thu 30th Jan 2020 12:16pm)

It's a sad state of affairs when the cunt using "ken" in the Glasgow subreddit is the one getting upvoted, that's how far off the mark the guy you're replying to was. by ndop (Mon 3rd Feb 2020 5:42pm)

Nothing interesting, something about the price their local "paki shop" (their words) was charging by ndop (Tue 4th Feb 2020 9:37am)

I feel like you've got to go bangers, mash and beans at that point but aye even with chips it's still a good feed. by ndop (Wed 5th Feb 2020 1:09pm)

I mean the vast majority of dogs also do not piss and shit all over the carpet too often and most pet owners clean it up on the occasions they do. There are of course shit people out there who are exceptions to that but I doubt the line between one of them fucking up your rented apartment or not is just if they're a dog owner. At the same time though it's just a really easy thing for landlords to exclude - as long as the market has plenty of would be renters you can afford to be picky. by ndop (Mon 10th Feb 2020 4:09pm)

At least use "naw" if you're going to do the shitey trying to sound Scottish in text thing, don't half arse it. by ndop (Wed 12th Feb 2020 3:44pm)

I imagine there'd be a market for this among tourists the type who think scottish people twitter and similar is fucking hilarious. The yanks who are trying (and usually failing) to type like they're Scottish in comments on there would be all over this shite. by ndop (Wed 12th Feb 2020 3:46pm)

Haven't used them myself but know someone who has and have only heard good things: https://www.facebook.com/pg/mjmkitchenandbathrooms/about/?ref=page_internal Plenty of options out there with a bit of the old Google, I'm sure you can get that quote down. by ndop (Mon 17th Feb 2020 2:00pm)

I suspect in a certain age group there are a lot of "first people to do it" or thereabouts out there. Most of them will be talking shite though maybe without realising it but hey at least *some* among them have to be right. by ndop (Fri 28th Feb 2020 10:25am)

It's just people prepping for a scenario where they end up stuck at home for an extended period of time. Some are going a bit daft but it's not like bog roll goes out of date so having more than you need isn't really a problem if you've got space to store it. by ndop (Thu 5th Mar 2020 4:36pm)

That's why this happens every other Monday too...oh wait does it fuck. It's clearly panic buying ya numpty. by ndop (Mon 9th Mar 2020 3:42pm)

So the pic in the OP is a weekly occurrence in most supermarkets according to you? You're actually claiming that or something vaguely like it? You serious? The fuck are you smoking? The shelves might be less than fully stocked before delivers come in normally but you're in fucking la la land if you think to this extent is normal. If you don't say and try to defend daft shite then you might have less trouble with people being a dick to you - fucking stupid to try to claim this is anything but panic buying. I might be a dick but I'm not wrong. by ndop (Mon 9th Mar 2020 4:17pm)

Aye they fucking did, this isn't the time for that particular circlejerk even if the source of their disdain is deserving of it. by ndop (Tue 24th Mar 2020 12:32am)

Mate they've literally never done a good thing ever as admitting something you don't like isn't 100% bad at all times just doesn't work if you're an idiot with a black and white world view. by ndop (Tue 24th Mar 2020 12:30am)

I was on your side mate and saying the black and white worldview folks who have the ridiculous position that because they don't like them everything they do is bad always are idiots. Obviously even the tories occasionally do something good as much as people don't like to admit it. I'm sure you were upvoted when I replied last night too, seems the opinions have changed. by ndop (Tue 24th Mar 2020 2:12pm)

They've got about as much to do with each other as 4G and IoT or 3G and IoT or...you get the idea. IoT devices might use 5G in the future (even then very few will, they're mostly WiFi/bluetooth) but they've got fuck all to do with each other really except that IoT devices use internet and it's one way of providing internet. by ndop (Wed 8th Apr 2020 4:55pm)

Seems more like it's just a conspiracy whackadoodle that's throwing wearing yellow jackets into the mix with all the other shite that spewed out their head when they made this. by ndop (Wed 8th Apr 2020 6:25pm)

They're all going to go to 5G right? So I guess the "answer" for these dipshits is all of them. by ndop (Wed 22nd Apr 2020 3:57pm)

I think you give too much credit to the nutjobs that they would think and plan ahead that much. I think they look mental because they are mental and the filtering out of non-mentals that causes is just a by product. by ndop (Thu 23rd Apr 2020 11:46am)

It's not a specifically glaswegian issue just like cocaine isn't a specifically Colombian issue but some places are better and worse for some things than others and Glasgow is probably the worst place of any significance I've been to for littering and I travel quite extensively. Glasgow's brilliant but we're shite as city when it comes to litter. by ndop (Sat 16th May 2020 7:33pm)

They're very similar games with huge overlaps in their databases and the changes are largely in terms of UI and theming these days. Definitely not different "entirely", Ingress is just the older slightly nerdier version of Pokemon Go. by ndop (Wed 27th May 2020 4:33pm)

I think acknowledging the bad parts of history of the past does very little to negatively affect attitudes to race issues of today. The fact we just act like we never had any dark slave trade etc history is definitely worse for making people apathetic to modern race issues in my opinion. Rather than your that's a shame in the past but it's behind us thinking people might just think "Scotland's never really had serious racial problems" or some nonsense like that instead since we're not really taught about it and have very little which recognises it publicly too. by ndop (Sat 6th Jun 2020 4:28pm)

We're not naming things after them though (today), things were already named after them in different times when they weren't considered tyrants or whatever else you want to call them. Removing those names because they're no longer PC has some arguments in it's favour but there's definitely the counter argument of just erasing the bad parts of history from being visible if you just replace their names and do fuck all else. by ndop (Sat 6th Jun 2020 4:26pm)

Aye mate you've got to the core of what I was trying to say there I defo think slavery just became unacceptable basically yesterday and had nothing more to say than that. Thanks for the insight... by ndop (Sat 6th Jun 2020 7:31pm)

According to Wikipedia Scotland is about 96% white and Glasgow about 88% white so seems like a fairly safe bet sherlock. Were you trying to make some larger point by stating this? by ndop (Mon 8th Jun 2020 12:04pm)

Of course there will be some commenters who are just racist or have shitty politics or whatever but I think even without a pandemic there are a lot of people who are maybe a bit cynical and view this type of thing as people bandwagoning on to a cause mostly so they can show off how woke they are to others and that kind of thing rather than any real connection to it or expectation of change. People who will have forgotten that black lives matter when it drops off the news cycle and will be putting a banner on their Facebook page (most often how their activism goes) for whatever the next cause of the moment is instead. I understand finding these progressive poser types frustrating but outside of the pandemic I usually fall to the position of "even if they're supporting a good cause for selfish, temporary reasons they're still supporting a good cause so whatever" and of course while people like that will be among the crowds some act like it's everybody there which isn't going to be right either (what the real percentages are I have no idea and I imagine if you ask 3 different people to estimate you'd get 3 very different numbers). The pandemic does change things though and I think if you're already a bit cynical towards many of these people and their motivations now is the easiest time to view them all as fannies - if they are poser types it's usually just a harmless addition that boosts the numbers of the cause but now it's risking virus transmission on top of that. We might have links to America and we of course have our own racism issues but is our solidarity to their/that cause in this way in this moment really worth the risk to lives of kicking off the virus again? There's no simple yes/no answer to that question it's going to depend how significant you think this protest is likely to be compared to how significant you think the virus risks are but I see a lot of people trying to shut down those who complain - sometimes just by saying the cause is very important which is fair enough though you can argue supporting it this way during a pandemic still but sometimes suggesting anyone who criticises a mass gathering right now must be racist or think it's only an American problem or similar which is definitely too far for many people in these circumstances. This happening in the middle of a pandemic complicates things - for those who would be dismissive of it regardless it's an easy thing for them to point to but there are definitely people who wouldn't normally be critical that are questioning it now primarily for the pandemic reason. I'm one of them and I struggle to really come down on a solid position because both of the main factors are full of unknowns (how likely is this event to increase virus transmission vs how likely is it to make any kind of meaningful difference to the good cause it's in support of) by ndop (Mon 8th Jun 2020 12:01pm)

Fair play, you're a lot more concise in adding fuck all to the conversation. by ndop (Mon 8th Jun 2020 1:15pm)

Literally anytime something like that is posted people also call them selfish cunts. It's not posted so often because "here's some more cunts" gets tiresome and turns into nothing but a self righteous circlejerk fast but the same people who criticise this for Covid reasons do the same for rammed parks etc by ndop (Mon 8th Jun 2020 3:15pm)

It's 100% a drone shot. You could do it by other means if you were determined but it would require so much more cost and effort. by ndop (Mon 8th Jun 2020 4:18pm)

Aye these kinds of situations are an almost impossible job for the police. Best case scenario they come out of it looking neutral usually and it's so easy to mis-step either by being too heavy handed or by letting people get away with a bit too much. It's walking a tightrope trying to keep control without needlessly escalating the situation and while I'm sure they make plenty of mistakes as part of that process it's got to be tough as fuck not to. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 4:39pm)

> I think given the chance Police Scotland would prove themselves perfectly deserving of the "ACAB" moniker. The more I read about these topics the more I become convinced that any person who uses things like "ACAB" unironically is part of the problem. The police force as a collective may have issues (definitely has issue) but on the individual level there's massive variance and any of these treat all the pigs like the scum they are kind of thinking is one small part of what leads to situations being escalated faster and further than they should need to. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 4:44pm)

DELETED Football has done a lot of good too. We'd still have dumb tribalistic bullshit without football - maybe it would take different forms but knuckle dragging morons aren't going to become enlightened gentleman if they had just grown up without football teaching them hate. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 4:54pm)

Why does anyone? by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 4:52pm)

The big problem with the club today isn't so much that those people are in the fanbase (don't get me wrong that's a very very real problem still) but it's that the rest of the fanbase who don't share their sentiments or at least not the extremes of them are so tolerant or passive about it. I'm a Rangers fan myself and can definitely be guilty of this too but as I see it the actual cunts are a small fraction like you say but they're a small fraction who feel like they've got the unspoken support of the majority - most people just ignore it as they don't want to get into a fight with a knuckle dragger or whatever and of course a lot of people will say the sectarian shit with mates etc as "banter" and while I believe most of them don't really mean the things they're saying it definitely helps legitimise it more for the people who do believe it hearing more people saying those things. That being said it's a problem I see no quick or easy solutions to. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 4:50pm)

Everyone, Anyone is just marketing pish. It's the right marketing pish for the club to be saying I guess but when it's everyone, anyone one week and then releasing orange kits to get increased sales from the sectarian element the next the messages can come cross somewhat mixed at best. We celebrating those Dutch players again? Funny we never do it for any other nation we had good players from...we had some good Italians for a period too once, maybe a green white and...eh never mind... by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 5:18pm)

To be fair if it didn't become attached to football here and have that continually fanning those flames I think protestant/catholic sectarianism in Scotland would be a small fringe thing rather than still far too mainstream like it is now. Football didn't make the problems but it gives this one in this place more fuel than it should have. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 5:16pm)

Aye it's quite annoying as I do genuinely like some of the bright orange kits just because I like some bright bold tops sometimes but there's really no getting away from the fact that it's got a very strong and clear association for a chunk of the fanbase and one we don't really want to be encouraging. by ndop (Mon 15th Jun 2020 6:44pm)

Aye you've got to be one of them if you don't support it being ok to just murder them... by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 12:23pm)

Also, ya know, their whole organisation is pretty much just dumb sectarian shite dressed up as history/religion. by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 12:22pm)

Doesn't being a good proddie just mean knowing the first line or two to the sash, saying fuck the pope and the IRA a lot and knowing 1690, King Billy and the Boyne were things (but being very muddy on the specific details of most of that)? Dunno what this "church" thing you're talking about has got to do with it... by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 12:25pm)

It might be but if that's all it is then I'm still happy seeing it downvoted as "haha we should just kill them all" isn't a particularly good joke in my mind either. There's fuck all clever or anything like that about it. I'm probably just a massive loyalist with no sense of humour though... by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 12:32pm)

No one's stressing buddy, if you're going to defend shite comments that got downvoted you might end up with people telling you why you in their opinion it's shite. You don't gotta agree but it's gonna happen by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 12:49pm)

No even a few loyalists, you sure? by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 3:04pm)

You lost me a little in the middle with some of the Celtic focused stuff but I generally agree with most of what you've said there. I think Celtic's problems that you touch on (child abuse cover ups etc) are just so different to the sectarian issues that talking about them alongside each other doesn't really work. It's not like the worst Celtic fans are singing about kiddy fiddling in the stadium whilst the rest of them don't do enough to condemn it. I think the fanbase are as reviled by that stuff as anyone else and it's more the club haven't always or even usually handled it well - the odd idiot fan will try to make excuses or usually engage in some whataboutery more than make excuses to try to shift the attention but it's just them struggling to accept anything negative being said about their beloved club rather than them actually defending pedophiles. While the sectarian stuff still has too many who will actively defend it on it's own. I think that not accepting anything negative about their own club is a big issue in football and politics and whatever else. Too many people get into their little camp and then it's just everything we do is right because we do it and everything *they* do is wrong because *they* do it. That kind of black and white tribalistic bullshit is such a serious problem - being critical of your own side when needed and recognising the other side occasionally do things well is just part of reality even if it doesn't nicely fit your biases. by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 3:35pm)

I get it especially with this being more a personal issue for you than most (who sadly just use pedophilia and sectarianism and whatever else as point scoring in petty arguments rather than treat the topics seriously) it must be frustrating to just hit the wall of deflections, whataboutisms and so on rather than address the topic. Plenty on our side who do the same too it's just a sad fact of where the rivalry's at that very serious topics have been reduced to "banter" in the minds of many. I think I was quick to point out you losing me a bit on the pedophilia thing because so many of our fans when confronted with very real problems of our club instantly reply "well what about them and pedophilia and the IRA etc" and while those might be issues they have it doesn't change anything about our own issues and is often just an attempt to shift the focus (doesn't seem to be too much what you were doing though). If we got problems we worry about our problems, let them deal with theirs. But I get the frustration if you think you're doing some of that while you don't think they are so much yet you also think we've got the "bad guy" reputation. For me that reputation might be deserved (less today than in the past but still is) - the fact they might deserve a worse rep than they have is aside to our topics. by ndop (Tue 16th Jun 2020 4:02pm)

Not really seeing the *passive* part here, that's just straight up telling you. by ndop (Thu 18th Jun 2020 1:36pm)

Guy clearly has some serious mental health issues to be so obsessive over so much utter nonsense. Hopefully he finds the help he needs at some point by ndop (Sun 21st Jun 2020 8:29pm)

Interesting. Wonder what guides them all there - have they got a conspiracy nut on the staff? Is it the only one not controlled by the space lizards they know of? Just happened to be where their alpha nutjob got their news so they followed? Does the Evening Times know about? Do they do anything to deliberately encourage or discourage this audience? So many questions that'll probably never be satisfactorily answered... by ndop (Mon 22nd Jun 2020 11:58am)

Exactly what I was thinking. Obviously the people who did this are lazy selfish cunts but I expected the picture to be far worse when opening it. Would take a council worker or nice member of society not too long at all to clear up what we see here (probably there's more than just in this pic too though I guess). I think it's a pretty sad indictment that this mess had the same reaction of "not as bad as I thought it would be" from both of us though. Shows how low expectations are. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 2:13pm)

Legally you can't but it's of course at least possible people could illegally even if it would be very difficult to do. I suspect the reason it's not so obvious they're police here is that they were just very quickly mobilised and it was more about responding to the threat timely than making sure they had the gear that identifies their job best. With more time to get suited up they'd probably look like the heavily armed guys you see at the airports or whatever. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 2:59pm)

> Its centres will stay open under administrators KPMG. At least for the short term it seems it will remain open. Whether the administrators decide that makes financial sense longer term we'll have to wait and see. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 3:03pm)

I started replying to this but got a bit too morbid in my analysis of it so deleted and starting again: I don't really think it takes an "amazing" amount of effort at all for a physically healthy adult male and you don't really need drugs either if you've got the right (wrong, very wrong) mental state to keep you motivated to keep going. Someone who does something like this has already had a mental break of some sort - drugs could be a factor but don't really need to be. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 3:08pm)

How can you possibly state that so strongly? Of course they're very very difficult to get, near impossible for someone who wouldn't already have access or be very very well connected to serious and probably international criminal enterprises (or maybe at least connected to Ireland/NI) but the idea it's just impossible is silly. We're talking about illegal trade here the fact London gang thugs can't get their hands on assault rifles doesn't mean no person in the country ever could if they wanted to. We can ship in tons of drugs, guns already exist in the country legally with military and cops but it's just impossible someone could illegally ship something in from elsewhere or get their hands on one of the legal ones by some illegal means? Don't be silly - very difficult to do does not mean cannot ever be done. I agree that practically speaking if you see something like this it would be fairly safe to assume they're police or military but to state outright there is no other possibility is going too far - that might be a slightly pedantic point but it's not a wrong one. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 3:17pm)

Maybe arguing about some unimportant shit at the wrong time/place? Not sure on the downvotes either as I don't think I'm really wrong but could be that. We all know real life isn't hollywood and getting your heads on this stuff is very very difficult (and probably even more difficult again for the kind of person who would then use it for some mental mass attack on the general public) so if someone's going about in equipment like that in the UK it's 99% they're law enforcement or military but you still can't be 100% and it would certainly put minds at ease if they were more clearly identifiable. But like I say response time is probably their number one priority which explains the look in situations like this. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 4:18pm)

Aye I'm from here but I live in Germany right now and while you do occasionally some mess in busy parks in Berlin after they've been busy it's nowhere near as bad as regularly as Glasgow. Sometimes get people from nicer parts of Germany in that way here complaining about how dirty Berlin is with litter but as Glasgow is my baseline they all just seem very picky to me. It's no perfect here but back home is just so much worse - we're a great city in so many ways but as a collective whole we're fucking shit when it comes to littering. by ndop (Fri 26th Jun 2020 6:13pm)

To also argue against devil's advocate many places that have been open all this time sell clothes too (e.g. many big supermarkets) with similar pricing, quality etc to Primark. Selection will obviously differ but if the argument is "desperate need" I'm not sure it holds up so well. by ndop (Mon 29th Jun 2020 2:33pm)

Might be a slightly different situation when your job's at risk and you've been to work for ages with a big question mark over whether you'll ever get back at all? Of course your average retail worker in average times likes it quiet to make their job easier but these are not average times and it's more about having a job at all vs it being busy or no. by ndop (Mon 29th Jun 2020 2:36pm)

Surely there's not a massive overlap between people who can queue up at a city centre shop at half 5 in the morning and people who couldn't get to a bigger supermarket though? Maybe they all live near the city centre and haven't ventured too far from home until now but for most of them...I have my doubts... by ndop (Mon 29th Jun 2020 3:31pm)

If it's concealed until you're already in a dodgy situation then you've got at least as much of a chance of it just escalating situation further than it might have as you do it of being an effective deterrent. Too many wannabe self defence heroes in the world - the wild west approach doesn't work so well for the yanks, let's not try to copy it. by ndop (Mon 29th Jun 2020 3:59pm)

Does the statue actually bring in any *extra* tourist money at least in terms of visitors? Surely it's something you take a look at while you're here and not something you specifically travel to Glasgow to see? Or maybe people do but I can't imagine I'd ever travel to another city just to see a quirky tradition on a statue. I'm sure it makes money from selling souvenir tat to tourists who are here for whatever reasons too though. by ndop (Thu 2nd Jul 2020 10:46am)

Fair point I didn't consider that, not likely to come here for the statue on it's own but once here you might go out of your way to tick it off the list. by ndop (Thu 2nd Jul 2020 12:24pm)

Get this mad conspiracy wank tae fuck. Just because somebody taught you how to present ideas in formal schooling once doesn't mean you're not still off the deep end by ndop (Tue 7th Jul 2020 3:07am)

Shit you wrote exposed in all caps so you must have figured us out. by ndop (Tue 7th Jul 2020 3:13am)

You're too smart for me buddy by ndop (Tue 7th Jul 2020 9:02am)

A face being visible on camera at a distance is quite different from a camera having been shoved in your face mate. by ndop (Tue 7th Jul 2020 12:12pm)

It's more dangerous to become one of the sheeple following the dumbass government than it is to wear a face mask? I'm struggling but if you believe the whole covid thing is just another flu being exaggerated or something like that the way these people do then I guess that's the only place you can really go by ndop (Fri 10th Jul 2020 12:35pm)

BVG are responsible for U-Bahn, buses and trams in Berlin but not the S-Bahn or regional trains. Source: I'm sitting in my apartment in Berlin as I write this. Thankfully you can still use them all on the same ticket even though they're operated separately by ndop (Wed 15th Jul 2020 9:31pm)

Berlin Olympiastadion is a shite football stadium mate. I live in Berlin and have gone many times and while it's a beautiful stadium in general and has some very interesting history it's got the same too far from the pitch shitty running track problem of almost all older olympic stadiums. Great stadium in general, same problem for football. Doesn't help that Hertha can rarely fill it due to the size of the place too. by ndop (Wed 29th Jul 2020 5:18pm)

What am I missing that OP sees? Guy looks generic as fuck and the place looks like it could be anywhere in my opinion. Doesn't look like Glasgow/Scotland in any meaningful way but I also can't tell it's not "our dear green place" whatever the heck that's supposed to mean. by ndop (Thu 30th Jul 2020 11:14am)

Any explanation for my questions or just a bit of condescension for missing a reference? I still don't get what's so "Not Glasgow/Scotland" about this photo? by ndop (Thu 30th Jul 2020 11:30am)

I definitely don't get it then and I don't get why you refuse to try to explain what I'm missing eithe. For someone who can't be arsed you're quick to reply on the defensive but won't attempt to answer simple questions, weird but you do you and stick to can't be arsed it's just a joke chillax maaaan. Also now that I did read a wee bit your condescending tut tut was misplaced as "dear green place" is a mistranslation. Supposedly a popular one but it's wrong. Do a bit of reading mate and get it right, tut tut... by ndop (Thu 30th Jul 2020 11:36am)

Why's it impossible? by ndop (Tue 4th Aug 2020 12:11pm)

Oh yeah for sure it would have very difficult requirements like you say with another aircraft of some sort and maybe a good zoom lens to take the shot from a safe distance too - I thought there might have been something else I was missing that made this impossible. by ndop (Tue 4th Aug 2020 12:19pm)

Drumchapel's in the East End? A few of your lists seem bit off but think you're well lost on that one mate. by ndop (Tue 11th Aug 2020 1:23pm)

Think a not too formal Ceilidh is about the best fit for them. If you're going to the rugby in a kilt wear a rugby top with it, no? Feel like you'd still look a bit "off" wearing a ghillie in that context but it's no the worst. by ndop (Fri 21st Aug 2020 2:36pm)

Kilts are far younger than most people who don't know about it think and under garments have been around for a pretty damned long time. The idea of William Wallace wearing a kilt or whatever is as historically accurate as the rest of Braveheart - it's not. Modern kilts only go back about 300 years and change and the precursors to them that we know of which are still pretty similar and not just a big cloak or whatever only about 100-200 years longer. Underwear of some form has been around far longer than that and the wealthy people who popularised kilts hundreds of years ago would have been the type who might have worn it (whether they actually did or not with kilts I don't know). by ndop (Fri 21st Aug 2020 2:46pm)

Anyone who's ever been to Belfast or other places that are/were key flashpoints will know it's clear it's not even a contest. They've got a fucking big wall dividing parts of the city that still to this day gets locked up at night. We're pretty shit with the old sectarianism but Northern Ireland is on a whole other level. by ndop (Tue 25th Aug 2020 12:09pm)

Belfast would have a lot to say about that claim. by ndop (Tue 25th Aug 2020 12:10pm)

That stretch of GWR always floods when there's heavy rain and it's usually got nothing to do with the pond. Been like that for as long as I remember, feels like something the council really should have tried to improve at some point. by ndop (Fri 28th Aug 2020 2:07pm)

I'd assume with dropping the offers over price you also find the typical offer drops alongside it so it's probably a balancing act of garnering enough interest while setting a price that maximises the best offer you'll get. How popular the property is and just preferences/experience of the agent probably all feed into that. At the end of the day they're trying to get a sale for the best price they can, any adjustments will be aimed at that target though some of them will get it wrong some of the time of course. by ndop (Thu 10th Sep 2020 11:55am)

But if there's almost no demand wouldn't lowering the o/o price potentially drum up some more interest? It makes sense you don't want people lowballing but you do want some kind of offers coming in rather than it just sitting on the market for a price no one's willing to pay, right? by ndop (Thu 10th Sep 2020 1:04pm)

Come on folks spill the juicy bits, you can't expect us to go to the effort of googling her ourselves by ndop (Mon 21st Sep 2020 8:01pm)

Definitely sounds like mental health unless she mistook you for a celeb or something like others said. Maybe she's just a bit mental and thought you were someone else she thinks she's seen causing trouble in the past or something like that or maybe she's just full on cuckoo and was documenting you to report back to the lizard rulers tonight. I wouldn't be overly worried about it but a non-emergency report as suggested might be a good idea - not only so they can keep an eye but perhaps it could help her get help she might need if it is a mental health thing. by ndop (Thu 1st Oct 2020 1:35pm)

I don't think they'd give a fuck when it's an obvious attempt at a joke (bad attempt but still) by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 12:19pm)

Any cunt that takes that post seriously should be locked up never mind her being reported to anyone. She's no getting jailed for a shite joke. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 12:19pm)

She's just making a shite joke but you do actually get mystery box things where the "value" is higher than cost according to them. Of course it's because they're listing some RRP type cost that those items are never actually sold at as no one would pay it. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 12:21pm)

And you don't think the specifics of these two make them different enough to matter then? "a wis joking" isn't a good defence in many cases but in some you don't need to go any further because it obviously wasn't serious. With the toy gun that was not clear in the moment, with this it's plainly clear and even if a fucking moron takes it seriously well she's no actually going to sell them remains so still not much to worry about. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 12:27pm)

Who said it was? "I was joking" is never a defence in itself but you are still allowed to joke about things even very serious things. The key point is that it should be reasonably expected people know it's a joke (which doesn't exist in your gun example but does here) and more importantly even if people take it seriously the consequences of that shouldn't matter (they're very serious in your gun example while here it's just some idiot getting upset online about someone who isn't actually selling remains). You can quote all the law you want at me but cunts are still allowed to make jokes about illegal things. The specifics do matter and in the specifics of this case no lawyer in their right mind would consider even approaching prosecution over a clear joke. Only a fucking madman would even think it's possible charges could occur here based on this post alone. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 1:27pm)

I have no interest in jumping to her defence which is why I've called her jokes shite multiple times but anyone who thinks making these shite jokes could have actual legal consequences is as much of an idiot as she is. And I'll argue that all day (or at least until I get bored). I'm not defending that moron I'm arguing against other morons who think she could end up in legal trouble here. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 2:31pm)

You're at it as well, would be fun to see the lass from OP come in here and have a meltdown at us taking the piss though. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 4:27pm)

The fact you've ignored my overall point to focus on pedantry about one small specific part I said wrong which changes little of my meaning but let's you totally avoid the bigger conversation makes me think you've got fuck all left to argue but petty pedantry so I'm going to bail now. Have a good one and seriously if you think she could get in legal trouble based on what's posted here go get your head checked. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 6:38pm)

So it's a fact according to you that she could face legal consequences based on this post alone? That's a fact? Even in being captain autistic letter of the law only and ignoring reality it's *still* debatable and in the actual real world it's not a debate at all as anyone with a functioning brain would know there's zero chance this is treated as anything but a silly joke. The rest is just more silly argumentative tactics as you seem to like to do. Calling me names is still just pointless name calling no matter how formal the language you use to do it is - no better than the shit you accuse me of just a bit less swear-y. Shouting "fact" a lot does not make you more right. Do you want me to say "you're wrong because you're a cunt" or something like that so you can shout ad-hominem at me and feel like you "won" because you found a fallacy? Whatever will make you fuck off as it's pretty clear you don't actually want to argue the point or you would have kept doing it several posts ago instead of descending into "can't admit I might not have been 100% right" cheap argumentative bullshit which is all you're doing now. Even if I'm abusing and insulting and a right fucking twat I'm not wrong mate. Your "clear evidence to the contrary" is anything but and you're absolutely delusional if you think you've provided clear evidence she is at legal risk based on this post alone. Mate, it's fine to just admit you were being overly rigid and it's very fucking clear that in the real world the obvious joke nature of this post would be the first thing considered and first reason why it would never make it as far as legal trouble. If you genuinely can't see even some truth in that then I think you need to get your programming checked as it's not factoring in some important things. I suspect you can actually see that side of my argument though which is why you keep avoiding actually arguing that point and evade to whatever other nonsense instead. As I'm sure you'll do in your next reply again. I wonder what argumentative tactic can't ever lose an argument online bullshit you'll hit out with next. Actually I don't, I hope you won't bother. by ndop (Mon 12th Oct 2020 7:01pm)

Since there's no proven vaccine available any talk of mass vaccination happening next month is clickbait bollocks. It sounds like they're gearing up to try to be ready for some unknown future time when mass vaccination may be possible - but it ain't happening any time particularly soon. by ndop (Sun 1st Nov 2020 1:49pm)

Pretty much everything north of the canal bridge has been redeveloped and looks a bit more modern though most shops are still shite. The part south of the bridge has barely changed except more pawn shops, gambling joints and that kind of crap filling the storefronts by ndop (Wed 25th Nov 2020 10:38am)

Think that was Beatties if I remember right, class place when I was a kid by ndop (Wed 25th Nov 2020 10:40am)

Naw by ndop (Mon 30th Nov 2020 8:19pm)